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QUESTION LIST; Page Number 37
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  1. The Lord's Supper

  2. The 'teaching' that the Negro is the "Beast of the Field" of Genesis

  3. Divorce when Civil Laws won't allow it

  4. Most conspiracy sites are 30 percent accurate

  5. Who writes the Bible studies at WBSG?

  6. Perdition: The two beasts of Revelation 13 in relation to Revelation 20:10. And what of the "false prophet"?

  7. Are Christians forbade to hate, and what of Eccl 3:8 "...a time to hate...."?  Also, the cause of the dilution of Christian resistance in these endtimes.

  8. Spirit of Slumber—does God blind them anymore?  Also, could my unbelieving loved one convert at the last moment unbeknownst to me?

  9. Deliberate Attack on USS Liberty

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Question #1

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The Lord's Supper

 

A reader writes:

Hi,  I am having a disagreement with some people about the Lord's Supper.  They said you have to go by the authority of the bible.  True.  They said you have to partake of the Lord's Supper every week using Acts 20:7 as documentation.   I can't see any command from the Lord there.   Some people think it's talking about a common meal.  I asked what if somebody wanted to take communion on the Passover(the day Christ was crucified)  I asked would you tell them they could?  Answer..No.  They insinuated that I was getting creative with God's word.  I think they are the ones getting creative.  In my own heart I believe that the Passover is the one day you should absolutly take communion.  I feel very strongly about this.  But I need to check it out with somebody that knows what their talking about because I could be wrong.  (it happens all the time)  :)       Peace in Christ Jesus............Xxxxxxxxxxx 


Answer:

Hello, Xxxxxxx; you asked/stated:

"They said you have to partake of the Lord's Supper every week using Acts 20:7 as documentation.   I can't see any command from the Lord there."

Many came together and ate a common meal; this is mostly what they were doing in the Scriptures.  It was common to eat a meal after long travel to fellowship.  There was no sin in the common meal.  The sin came in when the common meal "became" the Lord's Supper--which, of course, the Lord's Supper was never intended to be a common meal for the belly; but rather, a common remembrance of Jesus Christ's work.  Paul, in the below, tells them that this is not the Communion service that the Lord taught, but that they had corrupted it:

1 Corinthians 11:18-34  [Christ's quoted words in red text]
18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.
21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.
22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said,
Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying,
This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.
34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.  KJV

When should we take Communion?  Whenever we want, whenever we feel led.  Christ stated "this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me" but that is not directly saying 'take Communion every time you meet.'  But rather, every time you take Communion, do it in remembrance of Him.  It also refutes Catholic's and other denominations "transubstantiation" tradition (meaning that Jesus comes in literal flesh and blood into the bread and wine of Communion; i.e., a type of cannibalism, as well as a re-crucifixion of Christ every Sunday.)

The ones that Paul were chastising were not taking Communion to the Lord, but were filling their belly.  Another great sin was that the poor among them had little food, and the wealthy had veritable feasts.  So that some were made low and other made to be in the chief seats (better than the others for their wealth).  This was wrong, as it reduced the meal to a class disparity.  When the Lord's Supper was to be in honor to the remembrance of Christ.  Can you imagine your humble family sitting at the table eating a few scraps that you had saved up, while the rich people next to you had a feast spread before them--then to call the whole thing "The Lord's Supper"?!?!!!  God was not pleased at all with this perversion.

They did not understand, and thus erred; hence, Paul had to correct them.

There is no law as to when or how often to take Communion.  But many have confused the common meals of the early church with The Lord's Supper.

Peace.

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God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ's name!
Nick Goggin

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The False 'teaching' that the Negro is the "Beast of the Field" of Genesis

 

A reader writes:

Hey Nick, Xxxxxx here...  I have a question for you regarding the "beast of the field". I was reading on another identity site which states that the beast of the field is the negro, which is kind of funny in a way, since growing up in the deep south, I've come across many of these "beasts".  At first, I thought this was just a ridiculous theory, but the more I've looked into this, the more it seems to make sense.

In Genesis 1:25, God makes the beast of the earth.  Again, in Genesis 2:19, God forms the beast of the field.  So obviously, we're talking about 2 different types of beasts.  Exodus 19:13 speaks of the fact that not a hand shall touch it, whether it be beast or man.  Jonah 3:8 speaks of a beast that wears sack-cloth and cries mightily unto God.  I don't know of too many beasts (animals) that can cry mightily unto God.

There are other examples which I cannot think of at this time which also refer to this beast.  We know from science that the other races were created before the white race.  Therefore, I'm coming to the conclusion that these "beasts" may indeed be referring to the other races, but maybe not solely to blacks.  God made these beasts in Genesis 1:25, then created "man" (ruddy complected) in Gen 1:27, then formed "the man Adam" in Gen 2:7.  Again, two different events, one created and the other formed.

My only doubt about all of this is the fact that I had always assumed that the word "stranger" referred to the other races.  But I guess it could be possible that God refers to the other races as both beasts and strangers?  Just wanted to get your thoughts on this.  Thanks

Xxxxxxxxx


Answer:

Hello.  This is a false teaching.  And while it is very difficult and confusing to explain, I pray that I am able to do so clearly.  The teaching that you refer to states that the other races of mankind are the beasts of the field that were created before Adam.  And that only Adam's descendants are called men in the Bible.  Some, not you, then take this theory further to say that Negros and all other non-White races are not fully human, and do have souls.  This is a false and hurtful teaching. 

     Also, this perversion of the true Two Creation Events teaching is used by Judaics to defame those who teach it with their tactic: "guilt by association", lumping them (Two Creation Event teachers) in with Racists and Nazis.  The particular Judaics who do this are not of Adam, but are of Cain as our Lord stated in John 8:44 —thus it is in their best interest to dispel any "separate Races" truths.  The Judaics are the authors of the lie that says that all men are descended from Adam, and their "useful idiot" so-called Gentile Christian mega-preachers spread the lie for Judaic mammon funding.  They (Kenites fronting as Israelites) do this to hide their connection with their father Cain (who was of a sexual union of the serpent (satan) and Eve (see: What was the Real sin in the garden of Eden?)  Let it be noted that I do not state, nor believe, that all people who call themselves "Jews" are related to Cain.  Anyway, let us dispense of this "beast of the field" heresy presently:

Regarding your Scriptural reference, wherein you state:

"In Genesis 1:25, God makes the beast of the earth.  Again, in Genesis 2:19, God forms the beast of the field.  So obviously, we're talking about 2 different types of beasts."

     True, one is the (sacrificially) unclean ANIMALS, the second is (sacrificially) clean ANIMALS (don't confuse sacrificially clean with food clean as the food laws were not yet established at this point [remember that Able scarified an animal to God, so the sacrifice "laws" were in place early on, though little mentioned in early Scripture]).  For the difference in the Creation order and type, see: Mankind; two separate 'creation events' (halfway down in study to section, "The differences between the two creation events".

    How people can regard the below two Scriptures (which you referenced) as pertaining to black people, is beyond all rational comprehension.  Observe the language, and how that it specifies that these beasts are animal species.

Genesis 1:24-25
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.  KJV

     In the next verse, God contrasts the above with man (human, both male and female):

Genesis 1:26-31
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.  KJV

And your second Scripture:

Genesis 2:19-20
19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast
[chay] of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast
[chay] of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.  KJV

The word "beast" above in verse 20 is:

beast: Hebrew word #2416 chay (khah'-ee); from OT:2421; alive; hence, raw (flesh); fresh (plant, water, year), strong; also (as noun, especially in the feminine singular and masculine plural) life (or living thing), whether literally or figuratively:  KJV - age, alive, appetite, (wild) beast, company, congregation, life (-time), live (-ly), living (creature, thing), maintenance, merry, multitude, (be) old, quick, raw, running, springing, troop.

     Here is the gist of the "dilemma" and the answer as to why the "beasts of the field" cannot be Negros (or any other human beings):  There are two separate Hebrew words used in our Scriptures here for these animals.  One is behemah and the other is chay.

#929 behemah (be-hay-maw'); from an unused root (probably meaning to be mute); properly, a dumb beast; especially any large quadruped or animal (often collective): KJV - beast, cattle.

#2416 chay (khah'-ee); from OT:2421; alive; hence, raw (flesh); fresh (plant, water, year), strong; also (as noun, especially in the feminine singular and masculine plural) life (or living thing), whether literally or figuratively:  KJV - age, alive, appetite, (wild) beast, company, congregation, life (-time), live (-ly), living (creature, thing), maintenance, merry, multitude, (be) old, quick, raw, running, springing, troop.

    Now chay can also be any living thing (including a plant), but let's not confuse this right now.  Staying in context, we shall see that in our Scriptures, chay is referring to a living ANIMAL, not a plant or fish, etc.  (chay means simply: "living", and when applied to animals, it means living animal)   In Genesis 1:24-and again in 1:25 we see these two types of animals mentioned in relation to each other (i.e., they are different):

Genesis 1:24-25
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living
[chay] creature after his kind, cattle [behemah], and creeping thing, and beast of the earth [chay] after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the
[chay] earth after his kind, and cattle [behemah] after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.  KJV

     Now to say that these [chay] (beasts) are Negros, is to say that God called for cannibalism; for, in Gen 9:2 & 3 we see that God told Noah that he was eat those [chay] as food!

Genesis 9:1-4
9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of
[chay] the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth
[chay] shall be meat for you; even as [just as] the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.  KJV

     Obviously something is wrong with the "beasts being Negros theory"!  Here is the difference between chay and behemah:  it is not White men and Black men, but rather it is two different classes of animal families.  One is clean to eat, and one is clean to sacrifice unto God.  Yes, there is a difference; while all clean to sacrifice animals were clean to eat, not all clean animals to eat can be offered to God in sacrifice (back when the sacrifice "laws" were still in effect; though they are no longer in effect since Christ's passion).  For example, one may eat a clean fish (one having both fins and scales), but never is a fish sacrificed to God in any Scripture of the Bible, even though certain fish were clean to eat.  That is the simple difference between chay and behemah, when animals is the subject.

     The reason for the confusion when reading the early (pre-flood) Scriptures lies (wherein lies the error of the "Negros are the beasts of the field" dogma) in the fact that God had not yet set up the sacrificial system.  Though Able did sacrifice an animal to God, God had not yet explained this to us in the Bible.  Below God explains it to us in the Bible (but it was provided for and planned from the early creation in Genesis chapter one, as we just observed in Gen 1:24-25 where the two classes of animals were created (PRIOR to Adam in the Garden, I might add).  The below is especially useful in explaining the difference between chay and behemah as both are mentioned, in different administrations, to Noah:

Animals clean to sacrifice to God (behemah):

Genesis 8:20-21
20 And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast
[behemah], and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour
[i.e., He was pleased with the sacrifice]; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.  KJV

Animals clean to eat as food  (chay):

Genesis 9:1-4
9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of
[chay] the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth
[chay] shall be meat for you; even as [just as] the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.  KJV


     So, to recap, we have both
chay and behemah in two Scriptures, first in Gen 1 regarding the creation, and secondly in Gen 8 & 9 regarding clean to eat, and clean to sacrifice, animals.  Incidentally, the animal that Able sacrificed to God was of the sheep that he raised (a sheep is a behemah), as we would expect if I am correct here, and if God indeed did provide early on for the sacrificial animal system early on:

Both cattle and sheep are behemah animals (clean to sacrifice and eat):

Joel 1:18
18 How do the beasts
[behemah] groan! the herds of cattle are perplexed, because they have no pasture; yea, the flocks of sheep are made desolate.  KJV

Regarding your second Scriptural reference, wherein you state:

"Exodus 19:13 speaks of the fact that not a hand shall touch it, whether it be beast or man."

     Beast means just that—an animal.  Do you suppose that these "beasts" cannot be animals because God threatened to punish them?  God often punished animals.  For instance, "And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast." (Leviticus 20:15-16).  This cannot mean "non-Whites, or Non-Adamites, or non-Israelites; for, Israelite males were permitted to take non-Israelite female virgin (much could be said on this as well, but for time [see Num 31:17-18]) wives of the captives of battle. (only males can marry outside their Tribe/race—the women must remain within the tribe—else she is cast out of the tribe and she becomes of the foreign tribe [Why?  Because the seed passes through the male sperm—the woman's egg is a blank slate in that regard—much could be said on this but for time]).

Deuteronomy 21:10-13
10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.  KJV

     Had beasts of the field been non-Whites or non-Israelites, then the above Scripture is contradictory (which it is not possible for a Scripture to contradict another one). 

      Notice in the Scripture below, which you reference, that the humans are all referred to " 'am " (people).  The Hebrew word " 'am " in the base word in the Hebrew phrase "Lo-Ammi" (i.e., not my people—Hosea 1:9), thus 'am is people, not animals ("lo" means "not").

Exodus 19:11-15
11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:
13 There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.
14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.
15 And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.

hand: [I point out "hand" here, because some may say that "animals" don't have hands, therefore, they say, this means different races of humans.  But as we se, it does not necessarily mean the human hand]: hand: Hebrew word #3027 yad (yawd); a primitive word; a hand (the open one [indicating power, means, direction, etc.], in distinction from OT:3709, the closed one); used (as noun, adverb, etc.) in a great variety of applications, both literally and figuratively, both proximate and remote [as follows]: KJV - (+be) able, about, armholes, at, axletree, because of, beside, border, bounty, broad, [broken-] handed, by, charge, coast, consecrate, creditor, custody, debt, dominion, enough, fellowship, force, from, hand [-staves, -y work], he, himself, in, labour, large, ledge, [left-] handed, means, mine, ministry, near, of, order, ordinance, our, parts, pain, power, presumptuously, service, side, sore, state, stay, draw with strength, stroke, swear, terror, thee, by them, themselves, thine own, thou, through, throwing, thumb, times, to, under, us, wait on, [way-] side, where, wide, with (him, me, you), work, yield, yourselves.

beast: hebrew word #929  behemah (be-hay-maw'); from an unused root (probably meaning to be mute); properly, a dumb beast; especially any large quadruped or animal (often collective):  KJV - beast, cattle.

man: Hebrew word #376 'iysh (eesh); contracted for OT:582 [or perhaps rather from an unused root meaning to be extant]; a man as an individual or a male person; often used as an adjunct to a more definite term (and in such cases frequently not expressed in translation): KJV - also, another, any (man), a certain, champion, consent, each, every (one), fellow, [foot-, husband-] man, [good-, great, mighty) man, he, high (degree), him (that is), husband, man [-kind], none, one, people, person, steward, what (man) soever, whoso (-ever), worthy. Compare OT:802.

people: Hebrew word #5971 `am (am); from OT:6004; a people (as a congregated unit); specifically, a tribe (as those of Israel); hence (collectively) troops or attendants; figuratively, a flock:  KJV - folk, men, nation, people.


Your closing comment was:

"My only doubt about all of this is the fact that I had always assumed that the word "stranger" referred to the other races."

You are correct, the stranger is other races other than Israel.

In conclusion: 

  • In Gen 1:24 God introduces clean to eat animals, "chay";

  • In Gen 1:24 God introduces animals that are to go on to be both clean to eat AND sacrifice, "behemah";

  • In Gen 1:26-27 God introduces all the different races of mankind (who later are referred to as "Gentiles"*);

  • In Gen 2:7 God introduces Adam's tribe (and perhaps the White race*).

*Not enough info is available in Scripture to determine if a Caucasian-type of peoples were created on the sixth day. However there are in later Scriptures a Caucasian (White) type of peoples who were referred to as "Gentiles."   BUT, the term "Gentiles" did not come about until until AFTER Israel was established: therefore, "Gentiles" does not necessarily mean "people other than Whites," nor does it necessarily mean "people other than of Adam's tribe;" but rather it means "people other than Israel."  And we know that there were many White people of Adam's heritage that where born to other White people before Jacob/Israel was even born.  These people also had descendants who are with us today.  And while all Israelites are White people, not all White people are Israelites.   Many proponents of teaching of "Anglo-Israelism," "Seedliners," "British-Israelism," "Lost Ten Tribes," "Dispersed Israel," or whatever they are called today, fail to realize this stark fact!  There are many White peoples (descendants of Adam), that WERE NOT OF ISRAEL'S HERITAGE, because their ancestors came before, and not through, Jacob/Israel.  Therefore, "Gentiles" does not mean ONLY non-Whites, any more than "beasts of the field" mean Black people or non-Whites.

The early peoples referred to as "Israel" are only the descendants of Jacob/Israel; so, ironically, Abraham (Jacob's grandfather), and Isaac (Jacob's father) were not Israelites!  And had not God changed Jacob's name to "Israel," Jacob himself would not have been an Israelite!  Now you know the reason and the wisdom behind why God changed Jacob's name to Israel.  Had He not, then Jacob, the great patriarch of the peoples Israel, would not have been covered under:

Isaiah 45:17
17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.  KJV

Romans 11:26
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:  KJV

  Peace.

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God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ's name!
Nick Goggin

 

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Divorce when Civil Laws won't allow it

 

A reader writes:

Hello Nick,

I married a woman of another country [less than one year] months ago, We knew each other 3 years previous before our marriage we both went through divorces prior to our meeting, and our marriage. Three weeks ago her parents did some internet research on a certain pastor, we most people who visit your great site, know.  Not to say we didn't have problems before, but this was the icing on the cake,  she wanted me out and claimed that I was in a cult ( for believing what really happened in the garden [*see below]).

[WBSG Note: This is the danger and sin for all of those so-called Christians who repeat lies and slander about Pastor Murray of the Shepherds Chapel.  Many of you have no idea of all the sins that you shall answer for on Judgement Day when you slander and lie about a Christian Minister.  Take for example this man's divorce: it is a sin on the heads of the false accusersyou know who you are!  When you denounce a Christian Clergyman, you had better be right!  Which is why I included audio excerpts when I refuted the fallen Pastor Lance knight.  If I were to be wrong about him, I would be judged upon all the damage that that err caused.  This is a very serious issue that Internet play-Christians take mildly (I refer to the slander and lies against Christian Pastors, in this case, particularly against one Pastor Arnold Murray).]

It pained my heart to leave her and my son, but I would not believe a lie (the Christianity we see on TV she wanted me to take on tongues and all) in exchange for the truth. I know it is my fault for not telling her the truth in the garden and all the truths we know, but somewhere in my heart I thought it would all work out.

Now I have moved back into the states, but I was married in Canada. Unfortunately because of their laws the divorce we are getting will take between 2 to 3 years based on her last divorce which had no complications even though she had a son previously. Canada requires one year separation before paperwork can proceed for the divorce.

Now with all that background my question is, is she and I to remain faithful till the divorce papers go through? Or can we in time see other people. Are we sinning? I feel I should know this but I am so heartbroken at the moment. I found out she is already seeing someone and its only been a few weeks, am I to remain faithful till the letter be signed for the divorce, ,or may I seek another's (one that believes the same) in time myself? I apologize if you do not answer these personal questions, I am just at a loss at what to do right now. I would very much appreciate your guidance, as I see in other questions your knowledge in the word is outstanding. I would very much like your reply.

Xxxxxx from Xxxxxxx

[*WBSG notes from above:  the reader refers to teachings similar to as found in our: What was the Real sin in the garden of Eden? .  Many endtime Christians are totally ignorant as to what happened in the Garden of Eden, and believing the false teachings of their particular denomination 'traditions of men," and driven by misplaced modesty, they reject the clear Scriptural truths as 'remarkable.'  Many of them get downright madas I know from the hate mail that I receive (mostly of late"coincidentally" since I challenged fallen-Pastor Lance Knight and his possessed follower's false doctrines [see: The Overnight fall of Pastor Lance Knight and his Flock (with audio excerpts of Lance's heretical 'teachings') ])from some "Christians" (the so-called self-righteous "Christians") regarding satan's beguiling of Eve in the Garden of Eden.]


Answer:

Hello Xxxxxx:

     What I am about to say is sure to send the pew-potatoes and misguided self-righteous among the flock into a tizzy.  Nevertheless, you asked a Scriptural question, you are deeply troubled, and you shall have a Scriptural answerregardless of what the holier-than-thou crowd "feels comfortable" with.

     If I tell not the truth, God shall be my judge.  I shall endeavor to heavily lace this response to your question with Scripture, so that I may be simply a guide to the Scripturesallowing the Scriptures to speak.  For, it is not my opinion that you seek, nor should you; but, rather, you seek to know where you stand in regards to our Heavenly Father's written Wordthe ultimate guide in writing to how to please Him. 

     Now to the holier-than-thou's, whom I know so well:  I know that right now you want to write me a mean-spirited letter stating that I have just spoken in error, and that Jesus, not the Bible, is "the ultimate guide...to how to please Him".

     Careless reading ( a plague of them all) causes many of them to jump the gun, and to find heresy where there is no heresy.  A careful reading of what I said in the above paragraph would reveal that I said "IN WRITING."  Yes, Jesus is the ultimate guide to how man is to serve and please the Father (I would insert a "Duh!" here, but one of 'em wrote me and said that I sound like a ten year old kid when I do that).  However, you cannot separate Jesus from the written Word, for, He came in the volume of the bookit was about Him:

Hebrews 10:4-10
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5 Wherefore when he
[Jesus Christ] cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first
[Covenant], that he may establish the second [Covenant].
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.  KJV
 [Quoted from Psm 40:7, indicating that this Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of the Messiah promised of God.  Jews of all stripes [both the Secular (Atheist) Jews, and the so-called "religious" ["Observant"] Jews deny Christ Jesus.  And those few "religious Jews" who follow the old Covenant [Old Testament (but it is really the Babylonian Talmud, not the Hebrew Old Testament that they follow)] do not know they are blaspheming Godfor, God ordained the second Covenant and disannulled the first Covenant: "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away." (Heb 8:13).]

     I shall not interrupt herein any longer with taking away "debating points" from the enemies of God and Christ dressed in sheep's clothing.  But, I just felt the need to stop them in their tracks, and to alert them to read slowly, and think on it slowerinstead of skimming the text and rushing off to jump to conclusions.

     Also, the reason that I take the time to address these hypocrites and the ignorant to God and His written Word, is because they will carelessly and ignorantly keep you in bondage because of their own misunderstanding of the Scriptures and the power of Christ's work on the cross, and of His words and written Word (Bible). 

     Anyway, Xxxxxx; you have a problem, I see.  (Great place for one of those "ten year old's" Duh's!  :o)

    May I be clinical, and painfully honest here with you, Xxxxx?  I suspect that that is exactly what you are seeking from me.

Your first error: You said:

"...Not to say we didn't have problems before, but this was the icing on the cake,  she wanted me out and claimed that I was in a cult. . . . I know it is my fault for not telling her the truth in the garden and all the truths we know, but somewhere in my heart I thought it would all work out. "

     You erred in that you did not take your rightful place as leader of the family, and you did not assert your God-given authority as spiritual head of the house-hold:

Ephesians 5:21-25
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church : and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;  KJV

     You did not "love her" in that you allowed her, to avoid argument, to believe lies regarding the Scriptures and our Lord.  She did not "submit" to you, in that she usurped your authority in the home, casting you out, and placed her parents over you.  When her father gave her away to you at the wedding, that was much more than symbolic—he gave you charge over her.  (I know that this is unpopular with the Feminists, but that is the basis for the ritual in the Wedding Ceremony where the father walks the bride down the aisl and hands her to the soon-to-be husband.)  She disobediently went behind your back and was not faithful to her vows of "obey."  (By Feminist agenda, the term "obey" is/has been systematically removed from modern-day Wedding Vows.)  Her parents erred in that they intruded where it was no longer their place to intrude; and actually facilitated your divorce.  Yes, you are divorced.  But there is more, read on please; there are loose ends that you need tie up.

     Now I know that today's Feminist minded Christian women (90+% of all Christian professing women) will object to my stating that God said for a wife to be obedient to her husband.  So what?  They are upset, aren't Feminists and Lesbians and New-Agers  always "upset" with the Scriptures?  It is not my words here that they are upset with, they are upset with God's Word; they just take it out on me:

1 Timothy 2:11-12
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.  KJV

Colossians 3:18
18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.  KJV

1 Corinthians 14:33-35
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
[in Gen 3:16]
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.  KJV

Titus 2:3-5
3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.  KJV

    Taking just the last Scripture above, we can see how satan's influence in this world had taught women that they, by some right, have the authority to usurp their husbands.  This explains the over 55% divorce rate and the over 33% wife infidelity rates (self admitted) that we are currently experiencing in the Christian Western Nations.  Most women today, including the greater majority of so-called Christian women today are not following the Bible, but rather are following the human manifesto; and they are not following God, but rather are following satan-because "it feels good," and they "love to have it so":

Jeremiah 5:29-31
29 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?
30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;
31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?  KJV

     The fall of every great civilization followed immediately on the heels of the moral fall of their women.  How close we are indeed to that abandon.  Anyway, enough about thatthey won't listen anywaysthey have tasted from the forbidden tree of "freedom" and excess, they will never come back.

Your second error; you said:

"It pained my heart to leave her and my son, but I would not believe a lie (the Christianity we see on TV she wanted me to take on tongues and all [Yikes!  See our: 'Unknown' Tongues study]) in exchange for the truth. I know it is my fault for not telling her the truth in the garden and all the truths we know, but somewhere in my heart I thought it would all work out.

     You error in that you say that you left them.  You did not leave anyone; the civil laws of the nation forced you to leave.  You did not abandon, but rather, you were abandoned.  Had you tried to reenter the house, she could have had you arrested.  (Satan gave them [women] civil power over their men, whom God had given [men] leadership power over [their women].)  This really is all part of satan's plan.  Many people have yet to make the connection between Feminism and the breakdown of the modern family.  Why not?  Because they haven't looked into itthey just believed the subterfuge of the Judaic-controlled media and social agendas.  A good place to start would be the following Website (Note;  We do not agree with all of their Theology, and the Author there is a "converted" Jew, which always makes me suspicious, for good reason; but he does expose the apparatus [Note 2:  I do not accuse Dr. Makow, I just keep both eyes open when dealing with "converted Judaics"; for, as history has confessed, many of those "conversions" where insincere, and where just a platform for destroying Christianity from within]): savethemales.ca - exposing feminism and the new world order.  Am I so-called "AntiSemitic"?  No, don't be silly, please.

     Moving on; you said:

"...I found out she is already seeing someone and its only been a few weeks, am I to remain faithful till the letter be signed for the divorce,...."

     Once again, I must be painfully and clinically clear.  And sorry if this hurts you, but:  being that your wife has already been married twice, and has a child, is probably in her mid thirties to early forties, and is "seeing" someone weeks after kicking you out:  it is inconceivable that she isn't engaging in sexual relations with other men/man (it also makes one wonder how she found a new boyfriend so soon after casting you aside, if you know what I am driving at [you did mention that you were having problems before this latest issue]).  Now I agree that I am making an assumption here, but I feel that the circumstances, and the ways of this present world, would prove me to not be jumping to vain conclusions.  Why is this important?  It is important because, IF, and I will give her the benefit of the doubt, reluctantly; but, IF she is having sex with other men or another man, then she is an Adulteress.  And every man that has her is an Adulterer.  This is significant to your present dilemma.

     God hates divorce, that much He has told us.  But He allows it for the hardness of our hearts:

Malachi 2:16
16 For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away
[divorce]: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.  KJV

Matthew 19:7-8 [Christ speaking]
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.  KJV

     However, Christ continues on in the next verse of Matt 18 to reveal a very important fact to your situation: that even with God, there were certain circumstances that divorce was acceptable.  One of them being Adultery:

Matthew 19:9 [Christ speaking]
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away
[divorce] his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.  KJV

     In other words, it was always okay to put away a wife for Adultery.  Even BEFORE Moses gave them divorce for their weakness (hardness of heart).  Did not go put away Israel for Adultery (Idolatry)?  Now, in the old days this was not too much of a problem, because the Adulteress and her Adulterer "lover" were judged the next day by the witnesses and elders of the city, and abruptly stoned to death.  End of Adulteress and Adulterer.  Back then, Adultery was not as prevalent as they are today in satan's world.  But no, we are not to kill them anymore (Adulteresses & Adulterers, nor Homosexuals, Blasphemers, Beasialiters, and every other death-penalty case in the Bible, etc.)let God do that on Judgement Day.  We are now bound to follow the laws of the land as per (Rom 13:1-7), and if we were to kill one of these people, even though called for by the Law of God (which Jesus did not annul - Matt 5:17-18), it would be considered murder in a court of law.  I don't know about you, but I don't want to have my heart broken by a whorish womanand then spend the next twenty years fighting off the Sodomites (Homosexuals) in prison.  :o)

Romans 13:1-7
13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers
[government]. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For
[civil] rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
[law-breaking Christian make a poor example of Christ]
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute
[taxes] also: for they are God's ministers [taxes supoport military and police 7 fire protection, and social programs supposedly for the poor and needy, widows and orphans [but satan's Judaics have the lazy and the "entitlement crowd" in line alsolet God sort them out], attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.  KJV

Matthew 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.  KJV

     Many men are in prison for murdering unfaithful wives; who, in the Old Testament days would not have even had to see a day in court.  So much for the new age.  But don't forget that, now, through Jesus Christ, these wanton sinful women and men may repent and be washed clean.  Much has changed since the Old Testament, in the administration of God's Law; but the Law was never changed.  Only that mercy has entered-in with Jesus Christ [evident when he Pardoned the Adulteress in the Gospel].  So don't anybody go out and do something stupid (killing).  Let God judge.

     So, much hinges on whether your wife has committed this adultery.  Either you two are just having a fight, or she has broken the marriage contract by Adultery.  How can you find out?  Probably just ask her on the telephonemost women today do not even know to be ashamed of itthey have been so deluded by satan and his minions on Earth, that they really think that if they simply leave their man they are free to lay down with others.  Fools!

     Why Am I so hard on women?  It is not because I do not like them, but rather it is because I worry for them.  I see how they have been deceived like the boldest of Eve's.  I too am divorced, a fact that play-Christians would enjoy to mock on the multitude of Judaic-infiltrated so-called Christian Internet Talk Forums.  But I never put any wife away, I was put away by my wife; as I see, you were.  But who does modern day women a greater service; one who pats her on the back for every notch on her bed; or, one like myself who shows her Scripture wherein God teachers her how she ought to be a faithful and decent daughter of God?

     You judge.  But surprising as it may seem, I am not very popular with Feminists, Lesbians, and whorish women.  :o)

     But this is no laughing matter, and I inserted the smiley face to lighten things up a bit; however, through satan and his servants on this Earth (Judaics) women today are in great peril of the Judgement.  Look at Abortion rates; by age 45, most Western women will have had at least one Abortion (and most women who have had an Abortion, have multiple Abortions).  An average of 33% of Western women admit to committing Adultery on their husbands.  Females are having random sex at 13 & 14 years of age, and it is a rare find to find a female virgin by age 18, much less age 21 or 24.  What these poor manipulated women do not know is that, in God's eyes, so very many of them are Murderesses and Adulterers and Harlots.  Below is something that satan and his Judaic agentures don't want you know, ladies:

Matthew 19:16-18
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,  KJV

     Is a fetus a person?  Yep!  Sorry, Honey, but the Abortion Doctor, your Schools and Universities, the Judaic-controlled Media and Social Engineers, many churches, and the Feminist crowd lied to you.  God says in the below that if someone intentionally kills a fetus that they are to likewise be killed themselves.  In other words, life begins AT CONCEPTION:

Exodus 21:22-23
22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for
life,  KJV

Watch the numbers of Abortions Increase For the "Christian" Western nations


Abortion Counter from www.1way2God.net

NOTE: If a Christian woman has had an abortion, then repent to God in Jesus Christ's name, and be freed of the sin; then go on and live your life.  Through Christ you will be forgiven when you repent.  Only a Christian can repent in Jesus' name.  All other women who've had abortions, who are not Christiansyou shall answer for it on Judgement Day without the benefit of the Great Intercessor, Jesus Christ.  But you are in much great trouble then anyway for rejecting the only way to life eternalJesus Christ.

Am I trying to down or scare people here?  Am I setting myself up as  a judge here?  NO!  I too am a sinner saved by grace, and many of the things on this page I myself am guilty of.  But women MUST be told the truth, NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT HURTSor else how will they know to covert and repent?  Allowing women to believe that with their Abortion they have only extracted soulless tissue and blood, and that they haven't killed a human beingis to let then go ignorantly to Judgement Day with the sin on their souls.  When, had they known, they could have repented in Jesus Christ's name and been forgiven.  Likewise, Heathen women (ALL non-Christians) can convert to Christianity, repent to God Almighty in Jesus' name, and be made cleanand not perish in the fires.  When you Politically Correct cowards don't stand on the truth of the Scriptures, you help no one but your own sorry selfand you do lead many to "hell."  This too, YOU shall answer for.

NOTE 2:  Special consideration is made in countries where being a Christian is a executable offence.  In that case the Christian is not bound to proselytize.  Documentation:  "Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison." [Mat5:25].)  The self-righteous free-country Christians (USA, England, etc.) will object to what I just said; but, every Christian in a nation that persecutes Christians (China, Muslim countries, the whole world during the Tribulation, etc.), shall understand completely what I have just said, and what the Scripture has just backed me up on.  You can't deny Jesus Christ, but in these above mentioned cases you are released from the Great Commission of preaching to them:  "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." (Mk 16:15).  Let God handle those nations, and if He desires to convert in them, let Him send men well armed (or specially protected) to proselytize there (convert to Christianity). 

This very day, Moslems and Atheists will kill you for simply being a Christian; and in the Tribulation the Jews shall kill you for it.  Therefore, as our Lord said, before you open your mouth: "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." (Mat 10:16).  And it isn't very wise to stand up on a car and preach Jesus Christ in China or in Militant Muslim countries.  besides, you won't be able to reach very many people there with the Good News of the Gospel of Christ when you are trying to put your head back on.  Satan isn't playing.  Be wise! 

"But...but...President Bush and my Church Leaders told me that Islam is a religion of peace," some may say.  Well, they lied to you!  Read the Koran for a few minutes.  Look at the Humanist manifesto in China for a couple of seconds.  Read the book of Revelation for a chapter or two (try Rev 13:14-15 for starters) and see what Muslims, Chinese, and Jews have in store for you, respectively.

Be wise, please, the world needs more Christians.  When God wants you to speak under those distressed conditionsHe will tell you.  Until then, live, Christian, live.

Deuteronomy 23:17
17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.  KJV


Deuteronomy 22:20-21
20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.  KJV

Leviticus 20:10
10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.  KJV

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.  KJV

And yes, women; the laws against Homosexuality also apply to Lesbianism.  It was just that back then such an abomination wasn't even thought of (though it is covered under the "fornication" laws).  But satan has made Lesbianism easy today:

Romans 1:26-27
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men
, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.  KJV

     Blessed are the Christian women among them who find repentance unto salvation through Jesus Christ.  They rest of them (unsaved unbelievers) shall litter "hell."  And despite popular misconception, Christian women are just as likely (numerically) to have abortions and commit wanton pre-marital sex.  The divorce rate are little better for Christian women, and their Adultery rate is lower.  That is for REAL Christian women, not the play-Christians that we see so much of today.

     So women, just repent and stop doing it.  It really is that easy, you know.  Don't let the prince of this world (satan) separate you eternally for the King of kings and Lord of lords (Jesus Christ).  A simple read of the Bible will show that women have a greater responsibility, and are held to a higher level of accountably, regarding matters sexual.  Doesn't seem fair to you?  Deal with it, take it up with God when you are pleading for your soul in Revelation .

Revelation 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.  KJV

     And you men, when you cause our women to do the above things, and I know that you do; then you shall stand right beside her on Judgement Day answering for that sin.  You shall be Judged two for the crime.  You want to pay for an Abortionthen you own that Abortion; you want to charm a virgin out of her pantsthen you own that whoredom; you want to seduce a married womanthen you own that Adultery; you want to coerce your wife into "threesomes" and other sexually immoral tryststhen you own that Adultery and Lesbianism, not only your own, but some of hers as well.  Men have a greater responsibility, and are held to higher degree of accountability in matters of leadership over a woman & family, and in leading a woman astray, sexually or otherwise.  For, God had said to the woman:

Genesis 3:16
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.  KJV

And again, He has told her to obey her husband:

1 Timothy 2:11-12
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.  KJV

Colossians 3:18
18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.  KJV

1 Corinthians 14:33-35
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.  KJV

Titus 2:3-5
3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.  KJV

1 Peter 3:1-6
3:1 Likewise, ye wives , be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.  KJV

Verse 6 above refers to Sarah calling Abraham Adoni (and for those who understand the majesty of that Hebrew title, you will glean much from this Scripture):

Genesis 18:12
12 Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?  KJV

Lord: Hebrew word #113 'adown (aw-done'); or (shortened) 'adon (aw-done'); from an unused root (meaning to rule); sovereign, i.e. controller (human or divine):  KJV - lord, master, owner. Compare also names beginning with "Adoni-".

     Therefore, O man, you carry some of her guilt with her when you lead her to sin against God.  So you see, ladies, God really is fair; you just have to understand His rules.  God shall not hold the seducing man guiltless on Judgement Day.

     To those women, Neo-Feminists mostly, who do not approve of being told to "obey" a man: Why do you rebel?  Do not we all fall under the obedience of the Lord, both men and women?  And are not we all under someone's obedience on this Earth?:

Children are commanded to obey their parents:

Ephesians 6:1
6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.  KJV

Colossians 3:20
20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.  KJV

Servants are commanded to obey their masters:

Colossians 3:22
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:  KJV

All are commanded to obey the government:

Titus 3:1
3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
KJV

Hebrews 13:17
17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.  KJV

Did not Jesus even pay tribute (a form of tax levied on outsiders):

Matthew 17:24-27
24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea , and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.  KJV

All are commanded to obey the Gospel:

1 Peter 4:17
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?  KJV

And all are commanded to obey God:

Deuteronomy 13:4
4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God , and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.  KJV

     So what is the problem with this term "obey"?  We all obey someone, from our parents, to our teachers, to our bosses, to our Police Officialseverybody obeys somebody.  I ask all disobedient, new-age, satan-overthrown, closet-Feminist women, who rebel against both God and man: isn't it that you actually have no problem with someone being in charge, but that you just want it to be you?  You don't want to follow a man, you want to be him; and want him to you.  Satan tells you to "spread your wings, take charge of your life," and satan has you to say in your heart "I am woman, hear me roar"; well, God has chosen differentlywhom will you follow, satan, or your Lord God?  "Roaring" women in the Old Testament were usually returned to their father very shortly after the marriage.  Then  nobody wanted the spoiled goods.  There were very few (actually none) Feminist minded women in those days.  Back then having a husband meant that you ate on a regular basis, weren't raped all over the place, and weren't kidnapped into slavery or prostitution.  Today, satan has a civil overseer that does much of that protecting for you, so as that a man now is simply for bearing childrenand even now they are being replaced in that.  Sperm banks, Genetic manipulation, single & Gay "parents", oh my! 

     And if you can't find a good Christian man to follow, then stay alone.  Did not the Scriptures advice as much: "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord [i.e., only marry a Christian]." (1 Cor 7:39).  But if you weren't romping around with Heathen men all the time, maybe you would be available when you did finally meet a Christian man (they are almost impossible find themselves, I will admit).

     Question:  How come most women aren't man-less for more that a couple weeks (at best)?  Most often they go from man to man to man, without much of a break in-between, and they usually line up the replacement man before they dump the old one.  Why is that, ladies???  Like our friend here, the reader whose question we are answering: only a few weeks after he's kicked-out and his wife found another man!  (That would be clear evidence to me that my marriage is over!)  How can God send a good Christian man into your lives when you are always with some Heathen man or another, or bed-hopping to the point that anyone who has read the Bible wouldn't want you?  And also, most Christian men don't like their Christian women to have a sexual "track record" longer than the Great Wall of China.  But they have pretty much given up any hope of finding a virgin to marry.  That is to your shame, ladies!

     And for the "what-if-ers" in the crowd:  When any of these above principalities or people comes between you and God, obey God over them:

Acts 5:27-29
27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.  KJV

     In closing, what is in store for you, Mr. Xxxxx?  Well, either way you have a loose end that you much tie up.  By civil law you are still married, and it would break civil law if you married again before you were divorced.  So my advice to you is to diligently seek that divorce, by the law, even though it may take years.

     Must you remain womanless until that divorce is final three years from now?  No, you are already divorced in God's eyes if she has committed Adultery and you wish to be loosed.  Had we done things God's way in this present world you would have been loosed from her the next day, and you would not be in this dilemma.  But you must follow civil law for conscience sake, and seek out that civil divorce.  And it would break civil law for you to be civilly married to another while you are civilly married to her.  "What if" she doesn't want the divorce?  She has no say in the matter:

Deuteronomy 24:1-2
24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.  KJV

     Nevertheless, if she has not committed Adultery, then you are bound to try to convert her to the truth (though this whole "new boyfriend" thing is alarming!  If she isn't sleeping with him now, it's only a matter of time before she does).  Although, if she refuses to hear you, and forbids you by the power of the civil law (restraining order, etc.), then you are freed.  She broke the contract, and it is her alone that shall answer for the divorce on Judgement day.  You are free in that case.

     I am sorry that you are going through this; I too know the pain of an unfaithful woman (who doesn't anymore?).  Probably nothing hurts a man more than when his woman gives herself to another man (which is why God likens Idolatry to Adultery-He knows what hard-hearted, stubborn, and unfaithful humans, do not understand).  But a lesson in all of this for you, and it will take years before it is all behind you, is that you must find a Christian woman who is of sound doctrine BEFORE you go off marrying her and making babies.  You, being the man, must make your position perfectly clear as to the religion of the householdand if a woman doesn't accept that, then leave her alone, for, as you have found out, satan shall use her to destroy you.  There are many woman beautiful on the outside, but rotting on the insidechose inner beauty and faithfulness, trust, obedience, and honorover outer beauty and well-practiced sexiness, every time.

     Likewise, a Christian woman better be darn well be sure that her choice in a man is a good Christian.  If not, she is in for a miserable life of watching her husband lead her children into a dead Heathen belief system.

     You chose wisely, you Chose God, Christ, and truth of the Scriptures, over the love of a disobedient woman.  But many choose poorly, and like Adam of old, are overthrown by their wives.

Genesis 3:6
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.  KJV

     So much for the woman wearing the pants in the family.  Adam should have told Eve to cease and desist.  But he did not; like so many "males" today, Adam didn't lead his woman, he rather followed HER lead.  You closed your letter with:

"I apologize if you do not answer these personal questions, I am just at a loss at what to do right now."

     I am one of the few with the guts and the confidence to answer those type of Questions Scripturally.  And for that, I have taken a beating, but never with sound doctrine.  The naysayers always bring their, "my Pastor says....", type objections to the table.  My question to them would be, "What if your Pastor is wrong?"  Is it not better, therefore, to document our answers (and objections) with the Holy Scriptures of God?  I never get mad at anyone who disagrees with me, in fact I welcome them to write in, but all I ask is that they support their disagreement with the Scriptures of God, not with their own opinions or prejudices.

Peace.

    For sensitive questions and answers regarding sex, marriage, etc., see our: Is sex within marriage only for having children? and Masturbation, does the Bible speak against it? and Sexuality, Marriage, and Pornography and "Suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man," was God just kidding?  Also: Feminism/Lesbianism/whoredom/abortion and Does the Bible prohibit birth control?

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Most conspiracy sites are 30 percent accurate

 

A reader writes:

A couple questions. not necessarily to be public. I "study" with alexjones of prisonplanet.com just as I study with the Chapel [Pastor Murray]. You have said that "most conspiracy sites are 30 percent accurate". Do you feel the same way about him? I love the chapel but they appear to be necons and think Bush is a good guy. Do you think Pastor Murray, knows that george bush is a bohemian grove/skulls and bones satanic nazi. I havne't gotten this impression. It hurts to see have an issue of pride it seems to not have discernment on this. I could be wrong, so I figured I would ask you. It is nice to see someone who really know the truth. I have only met may four or five on the whole net. Not that we aren't also blind to many other things. don't mean to get cocky.


Answer:

Hello.  Well, I can't speak for the man (Pastor Murray) , but my guess is that he is ignorant to all of that.  Perhaps he has isolated himself in his Bible studies and hasn't came up for air to look out over the world and see them being fulfilled.  Or, he knows it and just doesn't mention it.  Either way, it is not comforting.

Pastor Murray is a good Bible teacher and servant of our Lord, but I feel that he is out of touch with current events as they relate to Biblical prophecy.

But he is one good Bible teacher.  As for prophecy studies:  We all may end up being a little wrong.  But to omit mentioning the obvious Judaic influence in the New World Order is...well...pandering to the Jews.

On that note, I might also point out that Alex Jones doesn't touch the Jews with a ten foot pole.  In other words, he (Jones) is controlled by them.  Alex Jones will post article upon article about Bush, but never take it one step further to expose who is controlling Bush.

Jones will publish videos on The Bohemian Grove and other satanic groups, but will never take it one step further to reveal that ALL occult groups and secret societies are/were founded/controlled by the International Jews, and find as their basic texts, the Jewish Kabbalah and to a lesser degree, the Jewish Babylonian Talmud.

So, as you can see: truth is indeed hard to come by.

Here is some relevant wisdom on the matter from the Judaics themselves, which should fill in the missing pieces to the puzzle for you:

PROTOCOL No. 12

The word "freedom," which can be interpreted in various ways, is defined by us as follows --

Freedom is the right to do what which the law allows. This interpretation of the word will at the proper time be of service to us, because all freedom will thus be in our hands, since the laws will abolish or create only that which is desirable for us according to the aforesaid program.

We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb: we shall do the same also with all productions of the printing press, for where would be the sense of getting rid of the attacks of the press if we remain targets for pamphlets and books? The produce of publicity, which nowadays is a source of heavy expense owing to the necessity of censoring it, will be turned by us into a very lucrative source of income to our State: we shall law on it a special stamp tax and require deposits of caution-money before permitting the establishment of any organ of the press or of printing offices; these will then have to guarantee our government against any kind of attack on the part of the press. For any attempt to attack us, if such still be possible, we shall inflict fines without mercy. Such measures as stamp tax, deposit of caution-money and fines secured by these deposits, will bring in a huge income to the government. It is true that party organs might not spare money for the sake of publicity, but these we shall shut up at the second attack upon us. No one shall with impunity lay a finger on the aureole of our government [NWO--the Jewish kingdom on Earth] infallibility. The pretext for stopping any publication will be the alleged plea that it is agitating the public mind without occasion or justification. I BEG YOU TO NOTE THAT AMONG THOSE MAKING ATTACKS UPON US WILL ALSO BE ORGANS ESTABLISHED BY US, BUT THEY WILL ATTACK EXCLUSIVELY POINTS THAT WE HAVE PRE-DETERMINED TO ALTER.

NOT A SINGLE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL REACH THE PUBLIC WITHOUT OUR CONTROL. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.

If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the GOY communities to such an extent the they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses; if already now there is not a single State where there exist for us any barriers to admittance into what GOY stupidity calls State secrets: what will our positions be then, when we shall be acknowledged supreme lords of the world in the person of our king of all the world ....

Let us turn again to the FUTURE OF THE PRINTING PRESS. Every one desirous of being a publisher, librarian, or printer, will be obliged to provide himself with the diploma instituted therefore, which, in case of any fault, will be immediately impounded. With such measures THE INSTRUMENT OF THOUGHT WILL BECOME AN EDUCATIVE MEANS ON THE HANDS OF OUR GOVERNMENT [NWO--the Jewish kingdom on Earth], WHICH WILL NO LONGER ALLOW THE MASS OF THE NATION TO BE LED ASTRAY IN BY-WAYS AND FANTASIES ABOUT THE BLESSINGS OF PROGRESS. Is there any one of us who does not know that these phantom blessings are the direct roads to foolish imaginings which give birth to anarchical relations of men among themselves and towards authority, because progress, or rather the idea of progress, has introduced the conception of every kind of emancipation, but has failed to establish its limits .... All the so-called liberals are anarchists, if not in fact, at any rate in thought. Every one of them in hunting after phantoms of freedom, and falling exclusively into license, that is, into the anarchy of protest for the sake of protest....

In other words, they will set-up front organizations to "attack" them and their schemes, but these groups are only being craftily used to ADVANCE their agendas.

Jones, like every Liberal I ever meet anymore today, is destroying American nationalism; i.e., he is making us hate the government to insight us to rebellion against that government--which shall be followed closely with Martial Law to put down the rebellion.

Martial Law in America shall mark the commencement of the Great Tribulation spoken of by Christ and John in the Gospels and the book of Revelation.  Alex Jones speaks against Martial Law, yet his every action is bringing it about.

When is Martial Law imposed?  It is imposed to put down rebellion and anarchy in the streets, as we saw just recently when the Negros (the Judaic's secret weapon) went on a looting, robbing, raping, and murder spree in New Orleans (which the Jewish censors are now currently purging the Internet Archives of any mention of Negro revolt in New Orleans--another good reason to immediately save articles as they appear, because they DO DISAPPEAR!).  But even with all that, Jones dares not mention the International Jewish world-masters who are orchestrating the whole thing.  It has been wisely noted that the media made the Rodney King Riots into riots.  the Judaic-controlled media is ever whipping the Negros up into a frenzy--to unleash them at any time they feel the need to.

We are all playing right into "their" hands, and there is no way out.

Tricky, aren't "they"?

Peace.

PS:  A good rule of thumb is to beware of "Conspiracy Websites" that are not Christian based.  There is a conspiracy, for sure; but Atheists, Jews, and other Heathens, could never understand it with God's perception.  Only Christians shall have a handle on understanding the Tribulation as she commences--the rest of the world shall be in dismay.  Rightfully so, I might add.

Peace.

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Who writes the Bible studies at WBSG?

 

A reader writes:

[The reader quotes us from Our Statement of Faith at Watchmen Bible Study Group ]:

"Watchmen Bible Study Group is a small, non-denominational, Christian organization.  We have been on the Internet since 1998.  As of June 2004 we are registering approx. 43,000 visits a year to our Website.  We are not affiliated with any other organization or any denomination; we are an independent Christian Bible study group; our only allegiance is to the Word of God, and heartfelt desire to teach it accurately―and that by the Holy Spirit of God.  We are supported and funded by the Editor's own personal monies, and that which is Donated by like-minded and concerned readers." 

Hi, I see that your name is Nick Goggin, is there anyone else involved in this?


Answer:

     Hello; sorry to take soooo long getting back to you.  I (Nick Goggin) write all the studies and answer all the questions.  Members of WBSG are the readers thereof and who are on the mailing list.  We do carry articles (E-Books, etc.) by other authors; these are always clearly credited to that author. 

     Being that I work alone, in my spare time, I am painfully behind in posting and writing things that I feel are necessary (like answering your E-mail, for instance).  But what can one do, one must work in the world to pay the world's bills.  I also feel very strongly against any other authors/Bible teachers presenting studies here, and do not accept submissions, as I am alone responsible to the Lord for the content presented here. 

     I am going to be posting several new Q&A's to the site, hopefully today.  And I am well into a long-promised new study on fallen angels, etc.  It is titled The Five Supernatural Agencies of Satan, but the completion date is not yet set.  Everything takes time, and I can't rush the project.  When it is completed, a mailing will sent out to readers on the mailing list announcing it. 

     As far as management and decision makingit is all done by myself.  As far as operating expensesI pay them out of pocket, supplemented by freewill donations from readers who appreciate the time involved and the materials being presented. 

     Thank you for your interest.  Have you joined the mailing list?  A link is provided below to sign-up for the mailing list notification of new study materials

Regarding the following:

"...As of June 2004 we are registering approx. 43,000 visits a year to our Website."

     We are now (Oct, 2005) up to 85,775 visits a year (235 a day).  So we are growing slowlyby word of mouth aloneas we do not advertise banner-links or whatnot.  Our only outside draw is through normal search engine finds. 

Peace.

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Perdition: The two beasts of Revelation 13 in relation to Revelation 20:10. And what of the "false prophet"?

 

A reader writes:

Dear Nick,
Great site!  I have a two part question about the two beasts of Revelation 13
in relation to Revelation 20:10.  It certainly makes sense that the two beasts
represent the NWO and satan, but I'm having a tough time reconciling this with
Revelation 20:10.

1)  In Revelation 20:10, the devil is cast into the lake of fire where the
beast and the false prophet ARE.  This makes a total of 'three' cast into the
lake of fire, instead of 'two'.  How can this be if the false prophet is
satan?

2)  If the first beast of Revelation 13 is an organization (such as the NWO),
how can a 'conceptual entity' be cast into the lake of fire?

I've been wrestling with this conundrum for a while.  Any light you can shed
on the subject would be much appreciated.  Your site is truly a blessing.
Xxxxxx

Another reader asks:

Hi Nick,
I've been studying your pages quite a bit, and some things bother me.
In the Emergence of the First Beast..........where does the false
prophet fit in?  I'm beginning to see where the 1st beast could be the
church/political system of that day.......but there still has to be a
false prophet.  Xxxxxxxxx

Answer:

Hello, thank you for the kind words.  You asked: 

"In Revelation 20:10, the devil is cast into the lake of fire where the
beast and the false prophet ARE.  This makes a total of 'three' cast into the
lake of fire, instead of 'two'.  How can this be if the false prophet is
satan?"

You refer to:

Revelation 19:20-21
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.  KJV
 

and: 

Revelation 20:10
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
KJV

The answer to the quandary is found in rightly dividing according to time

     Rev 20:10 is in the millennium; at the very of it, in fact.  In the millennium there is no more flesh, all are in spiritual bodies.  In Rev 19:20 we are still in the flesh, before the millennium (actually right at the Second Advent).  All are still in flesh and are being either transformed into their spiritual bodies by the grace of God (for the overcomers, as per 1st Thes 4:17), or, are being driven into their spiritual bodies by death, as they are killed by Christ in Rev 19:21 (those who do not overcome). Either way, there is no more flesh after Rev 19 closes. 

     In Rev 19, the beast (the one world system of satan) and the false prophet (the antichrist/satan) is cast into the Lake of Fire.  They are gone, done away with.  But then you might say, "How can antichrist/satan be destroyed in the Lake of Fire in Rev 19, and then satan is later sent into that Lake in Rev 20?"  That, I believe, is your question. 

     Antichrist is satan manifested on this Earth in a body, just as Jesus Christ was God manifest into the flesh.  You have to be able to understand the difference between flesh and spiritual bodies.  We all were in spiritual bodies before we were born into this flesh body that we now inhabit.  but we (our soul) is eternal unless God blots us out in the Lake of Fire, the death of a soul, the second death.  But our flesh body dies and is cast off and men bury it in the ground where it decomposes back into the elements whence it was taken.  But this is not so for the unique bodies of the serpent/antichrist, and the fallen angels.  These had a different body than we flesh humans have, but they could operate in our realm.  Those bodies must be collected up to Heaven to destroy, they cannot decompose into dirt because they are not formed of the dirt of the earth--they are spiritual, but are not the same as the spiritual bodies like we all have within us.  They underwent a transformation when entering this flesh world, but they are different than our flesh bodies, as they are from above, not formed here below from the dust of the earth.  Jesus on the other hand, was formed from the dust of the Earth in the womb of the human woman, Mary of Nazareth.  That is the difference between Jesus' body and the body of the serpent in the Garden, the antichrist of the tribulation, and the fallen angels of Gen 6. 

     Jesus was God in the flesh.  the serpent and antichrist were/are to be satan in the flesh, and the fallen angels of Gen 6 and their fellows who return in Rev 9 are evil spirits manifest into bodies that can stride both the flesh and the spiritual realm.  The later (the evil angels) are not quite flesh, and not quite spirit, but are a perversion of both.  So that what we have is:

  • God fully in the flesh, born of woman, as Jesus Christ;
     

  • satan in a supernatural body given to operate in the flesh realm, but never born of woman, as the serpent and again as the antichrist;
     

  • and the evil spirits devoted to satan, in supernatural bodies given to operate in the flesh realm, but never born of woman, as the fallen angels (sons of God) of Gen 6, and the locust army in Rev 9.

     We will be covering this in-depth in our up-coming study titled The Five Supernatural Agencies of Satan., where much more will be spoken of regarding angels, evil spirits, demons, humans, etc.  If you are on the mailing list you receive notification when it is ready to be presented. 

     Satan will not be "possessing" anyone, he will not be a "reincarnation" of anyone, as many surmise.  He will have his own body, just like Jesus Christ had His own body which died and was buried, yet as God He is eternal; the body however, was not eternal, it was a "container" so to speak.  that is why we do not see Jesus Christ the man in Heaven, we see the Lamb; for, Jesus Christ was/is God.  The Trinity (Triune Godhead) having been made One in Revelation 21ff, and hinted at in:

1 Corinthians 15:23-28
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet . But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.  KJV
  

    Back to satan:  Satan, as the antichrist will have his own body like the fallen angels of Gen 6 had bodies (and were able to impregnate flesh women, as seen in Gen 6:4.  He will have a body like he had in the Garden of Eden (as the serpent).  It is that which is cast into the Lake of Fire in Rev 19.  In Rev 20 we see satan himself, his soul, the entity, being cast into the Lake of Fire.  Everything and everyone cast into that lake of Fire is extinguished eternally.  "Eternally" goes both forward in time and backwards in time.  "Eternity" has no beginning and no end.  Therefore, those souls and entities, and principalities, and offices, etc., which are to be cast into that Lake of Fire, are so completely extinguished as that they will at that time have never had existed.  This is eternal perdition, the death of a soul, called in Rev 20 the "second death," which is the eternal repository for every entity that does not overcome, and it extinguishes the future as well as the past.  Deep, I know. 

     So, the three which you speak of as being cast into the Lake of Fire are really one; call it an "unholy trinity" if you will.  Just as there is (1) God the father, (2) Jesus the Son, and (3) the Holy Spirit, conversely you have: (1) satan, (2) the antichrist/serpent, and (3) the spirit of antichrist.  Having a problem making that connection?  Ponder on "...and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." (1 John 4:3b).  Anyway, the three cast in the Lake of Fire BEFORE Judgement Day are:

  1. The beast of Rev 19:20 is the principality of satan, the one world system which is to be his short lived kingdom.  This beast is often referred to as a "he" in Rev 13, etc.  But there are two beasts in Rev 13, and care must be used discerning which is spoken of respectively--great error and confusion arises out of not understanding that there are two beasts in the Tribulation (Rev 13).
     

  2. The false prophet of Rev 19:20 is satan as the antichrist;
     

  3. The devil of Rev 20:10 is satan himself, known by many names including the devil. (see his other names in Rev 12:9)

These all are cast into the Lake of Fire forever, both forwards in time and backwards in timei.e., eternally.

And you also asked:

"If the first beast of Revelation 13 is an organization (such as the NWO),
how can a 'conceptual entity' be cast into the lake of fire?"

     I think that I may have answered this question somewhat in the above.  Let me just add that "conceptual entities," as you call them, are ever the enemy to be put down.  In the bible these 'conceptual entities" are referred to as "principalities."  We see them being spoken of many times.  Observe; 

We are to know of them, therefore they exist (and if they exist, they must be reckoned with):

Ephesians 3:10
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, KJV

We are given armor to withstand them (resist them), therefore they are a danger to us:

Ephesians 6:11-13
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.  KJV

Christ triumphed over them, therefore they are an organized enemy of our Lord:

Colossians 2:14-15
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.  KJV

Their goal is to separate us from the Lord, therefore they are our dangerous enemies:

Romans 8:35-39
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.  KJV

They are called "he", therefore they are an entity (a corporate entity), and must be disposed of in the end:

Revelation 13:1-9
13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast [the 1st beast-the corporate entity-the "NWO" if you will] rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast [the 1st beast] which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon [the 2nd beast (antichrist/satan), introduced in Rev 13:11] gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his [the 1st beast] heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast [the 1st beast].
4 And they worshipped the dragon [the 2nd beast (antichrist/satan)] which gave power unto the beast [the 1st beast]: and they worshipped the beast [the 1st beast], saying, Who is like unto the beast [the 1st beast]? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him [the 1st beast] a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months [Note: satan/antichrist only has 5 months (Rev 9:5,10), but this beast has 42 months].
6 And he [the 1st beast] opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him [the 1st beast, not the 2nd beast satan/antichrist] to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.  KJV

     How will the whole world worship this corporate entity, the first beast?  Observe how the 2nd beast (satan/antichrist) shall demand it:

Revelation 13:11-15
11 And I beheld another beast
[the 2nd beast (antichrist/satan/dragon/serpent/etc.)] coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he [2nd beast] exerciseth all the power of the first beast [the corporate entity-NWO] before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast [the corporate entity-NWO], whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he [2nd beast] doeth great wonders, so that he [2nd beast] maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he [2nd beast] had power to do in the sight of the beast [the corporate entity-NWO]; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast [the corporate entity-NWO], which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he [2nd beast] had power to give life unto the image [what this is, is unknown at this time] of the beast [the corporate entity-NWO], that the image of the beast should both speak [refer back to Rev 13:5], and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.  KJV

     So you see, an inanimate object (in this case the entire world luciferian structure of the time of the end) can indeed be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish forever and ever.  You asked: "how can a 'conceptual entity' be cast into the lake of fire?".  But I ask you: by what authority do we limit the destructive and cleansing/purging power of the Lake of Fire to only humans and demons?  Consider this: Did not Christ even speak to and curse a tree? (Matt 21:19); did not Balaam's ass speak? (Num 22:30); did not God marry a city? (Ezek 16:8).  We cannot understand the ways of God by the frail and incomplete understanding of man:

Romans 11:33-34
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?  KJV

     Therefore, in the end, these principalities and powers shall all be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish forever, time with no endeternally:

Revelation 20:10
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.  KJV

And I say: good ordinance to them. 

Peace. 

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Nick Goggin

 

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Are Christians forbade to hate, and what of Eccl 3:8 "...a time to hate...."?  Also, the cause of the dilution of Christian resistance in these endtimes.

 

A reader asks:

"are we allowed to hate and if so, who are we allowed to hate?  I wasn’t sure if it really means we can hate – like saying a person that kills your family – can you hate them?  I thought we were not supposed to hate anyone.  Can you please explain.

Ecc 3:8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."


Answer:

 

Hello.  Please let me preface this by stating that I shall be saying many things herein that are not necessarily directed towards you personally.  I write to the larger audience, and take advantage of reader's questions to expand into wider subjects.  So please take no offence and do not consider me in any way chastening you personally.  That having been said, you asked:

"I thought we were not supposed to hate anyone"

You speak of:

Ecclesiastes 3:8
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.  KJV

hate:  Hebrew word #8130  sane' (saw-nay'); a primitive root; to hate (personally): KJV - enemy, foe, (be) hate (-ful, -r), odious, utterly.

The word "hate" [sane'], when used in the Bible, means to "love less."  Observe:

Genesis 29:30-34
30 And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years.
31 And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated
[sane'], he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren.
32 And Leah conceived, and bare a son, and she called his name Reuben: for she said, Surely the LORD hath looked upon my affliction; now therefore my husband will love me.
33 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and said, Because the LORD hath heard that I was hated
[sane'], he hath therefore given me this son also: and she called his name Simeon.
34 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and said, Now this time will my husband be joined unto me, because I have born him three sons: therefore was his name called Levi.  KJV
 

The word "hate" [sane'] is a finding of less favor in one over the other:

Deuteronomy 21:15-17

15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated [sane'], and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated [sane']; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated [sane']:

16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated [sane'], which is indeed the firstborn:

17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated [sane'] for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.  KJV

    God "hated" [sane'] Esau, meaning that He loved him less than Jacob, or that he found more favor in Jacob, or otherwise stated: God was not well pleased with Esau compared to Jacob (a kind of repeat of the situation of Cain and Able's sacrifice in Gen 4:3ff): 

Malachi 1:1-3
1:1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,

3 And I hated [sane'] Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.  KJV 

    This same word [sane'] which is most often translated in the Old testament to 'hate," is in some places also translated to "enemy":

Exodus 1:8-10

8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.

9 And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:

10 Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies [sane'], and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.  KJV 

    For a deeper understanding from the King James Version usage of [sane'], observe the below two places where the same word (in the Hebrew) is used in one sentence by two different English translations.  When this happens it is always most useful in determining the weight of a Hebrew or Greek word in the English Bible.  For a little background on the below Scripture:  Absalom was the king's son; Absalom betrayed the King (his own father) as seen in 2nd Sam 16:22. Then, during a battle, Absalom was killed.  The people in the below Scripture were upset with the king because he mourned more over the loss of the betrayer (his son Absalom) than he mourned over the loyal men who remained faithful to the king in the battle.  Observe the meaning of the word [sane'] in the below two places it is utilized: 

2 Samuel 19:1-6
1 And it was told Joab, Behold, the king weepeth and mourneth for Absalom.

2 And the victory that day was turned into mourning unto all the people: for the people heard say that day how the king was grieved for his son.

3 And the people gat them by stealth that day into the city, as people being ashamed steal away when they flee in battle.

4 But the king covered his face, and the king cried with a loud voice, O my son Absalom, O Absalom, my son, my son!

5 And Joab came into the house to the king, and said, Thou hast shamed this day the faces of all thy servants, which this day have saved thy life, and the lives of thy sons and of thy daughters, and the lives of thy wives, and the lives of thy concubines;

6 In that thou lovest thine enemies [sane'], and hatest [sane'] thy friends. For thou hast declared this day, that thou regardest neither princes nor servants: for this day I perceive, that if Absalom had lived, and all we had died this day, then it had pleased thee well.  KJV  

    As you can determine from verse 6 above, it is not possible with our modern-day interpretation of the word "hate" to "love your [sane']" or to "[sane'] your friends."  So obviously the weight of our modern-day day "hate" is far greater than the Bible's [sane'], which in 1611 A.D. was translated to "hate" in the King James Bible.  But the king James diod not mistranslate the word, as many foolish Bible-attackers will say; it is just that the English language has evolved.  many words mean something quite different than they did four hundred years ago.  For instance, in the 1828 Webster's Dictionary we find that hate was described as:

 

HATE, v.t. [L. odi, for hodi.]

1. To dislike greatly; to have a great aversion toIt expresses less than abhor, detest, and abominate, unless pronounced with a peculiar emphasis. 

§         How long will fools hate knowledge? Prov.1.

§         Blessed are ye when men shall hate you. Luke 6.

§         The Roman tyrant was contented to be hated, if he was but feared. 

2. In Scripture, it signifies to love less

§         If any man come to me, and hate not father and mother, &c. Luke 14.

§         He that spareth the rod, hateth his son. Prov. 13. 

HATE, n. Great dislike or aversion; hatred.

―Source: The 1828 Webster’s Dictionary of the English Language. 

 

    God uses the word [sane'] in the Ten Commandments, in the Second Commandment specifically: 

Exodus 20:4-6

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate [sane'] me ;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.  KJV 

    In conclusion, the word "hate" in the Bible is used both in the Greek New Testament and the Hebrew Old Testament to indicate: to love less, disappointment, second lesser choice, an adversary, an opponent, a rival, one worthy of contempt, one not worthy of favor, ....

 

I hope that helps.

 

    Now something important needs be said.  As is evident in the "fear" that you yourself have displayed in showing any form of anger (or better stated: righteous indignation), Christians today are being disarmed by the adversary.  Why do I say this?

 

    It is because, through crafty and selective verse-cutting, Christians are being marginalized and neutered.  According to the enemies of God, Christ, and church (the Judaics and Liberals mainly), we Christians have not the right to ever get angry, to ever be mad, to ever be so-called "vengeful" (i.e., to demand the extraction of justice and retribution in the form of punishment or rebuke.  Even though the Bible is full of such incidents which were not chastised by God.

 

    The word "hate" in today's lingo has been blown way out of proportion (this too is by the design of the adversaries).  The Judaics, through their social construct of "Political-Correctness," shoved down our throats by their Media arm, affix the "hate" to all that offends the beast's march forward.  For instance, if you criticize, say, a Jew for being caught embezzling—you are an Anti-Semite, you must surely "hate" Jews.  If you oppose mixed marriages being pushed upon our children in the Network Shows and all other Judaic-controlled Media venues, then you must be a Racist, you surely "hate" Blacks.  If you oppose the Homoerotic propaganda and seduction being subtly indoctrinated into your child's heads in the Judaic controlled core-curriculum in all schools (even Christian to some degree), then you are a Homophobe, you surely "hate" Homosexuals and Lesbians and all the other sinful and perverted categories of the "GLBT "community".  (GLBT = Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered).

 

    Are you seeing a pattern in the above?  Every movement that is against God, against God's Law, against Christ Jesus, against decent society, against truth, against Christians; is founded, controlled, financed, and moved forward, by one group of people and their useful idiot "Gentiles" (called "Righteous Gentiles" [i.e., 'good slaves'] in the Seven Noahide laws).  I will not insult your intelligence by identifying that group.

 

    Of course, should anyone reading my above statement shake his/her head, yes; agreeing with any of the above; they are to be labeled as AntiSemitic, Racist, and Homophobic.  Even though what they believe is true, and that they just feel that way because of what they observe to be true.  Truth is not Politically Correct.  This is of satan, and his people on this Earth (no-names-necessary) are using it to bring in the Tribulation which shall present satan as the antichrist.  Yes, it is THAT serious! The International Judaics couldn't care less about the rights of perverted gays, they have even written into their Tribulation Laws (the Seven Noahide laws) that Homosexuals shall be killed when the Jews come into their Earthly kingdom.  But for now the gays are useful to the Judaics to destroy the natural social order and morals of God's World.  That is why they are called "useful idiots by the Jews themselves in their own writings.  Likewise are all so-called Liberal movements a tool in the hands of satan's "chosen ones" to destroy the moral compass of the world.  Yes, the Judaics are the "chosen of god" people, alright; problem is, they are the chosen ones of the false god satan.  Below is the god of whom the Judaics are chosen of:

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.  KJV

    Let's move on, I do not have enough time here to do justice to my above statements.  But I may revisit them before closing this letter.

 

    But one more thing before we leave this subject:  many ask why I "always" identify the International Judaic as the culprit in the endtimes who shall persecute Christians and bring in their god antichrist upon the world.  They say to me that I should be more focused on 'spreading the Word" and evangelizing people, bringing them into Christianity with love and soft words.  They say that I should not identify the enemy so boldly, because it will "turn-off" prospective Christian converts—they will sense anger and be driven away because they have been taught that Christians do not act angry, they just love everyone unconditionally.

 

    To these challenges, I say this:  There are many good organizations that speak sweet words of love to draw people into Christianity.  That is fine.  However, none (few) dare warn the Christians of whom it is that is slaying them, both physically in the future and spiritually in the present.  That is what we do here at WBSG, we warn the Christian.

 

    There are different ministries, there are evangelistic ministries that bring new people to Christ, there are teaching ministries that teach the Scriptures, there are prayer ministries that pray for the people, and there are watchmen (plural—no self-appointed ones here!) ministries that warn the people.  We are called here Watchmen Bible Study Group, we watch and report current events and trends regarding satan and his people on Earth and their progress in the overthrow of God’s world.  Like-minded NWO researchers and Bible students enjoy to join us here.

 

    Many read the Bible, they read the book of Revelation, and they see that there is indeed a persecution of Christians (and all other peoples, I might add) coming.  But they never stop to ask who it is that shall prepare the world for this antichrist and his beast world-system.  Antichrist doesn't just plop down here and take the world over—he comes to a world that has been readied for him (when you read Revelation chapter 13, which details the tribulation's two segments, you see in first 10 verses the world being prepared for antichrist who literally appears in verse 11.)  The question which few Christians have the guts to ask is, is who are the people that are preparing the world for antichrist/satan?  Who are the people that shall control the beast system before satan (antichrist) gets here.  Antichrist doesn’t come until the second portion of the Tribulation, not until after the first 42 months of the Tribulation is well spent.  Satan (antichrist) then has the remaining 5 months (Rev 9:5 & 10) to rule here on Earth as a godlike figure.  Then comes the end of our world as we know it now (the Second Advent).

 

    There is a global, centuries old, conspiracy to overthrow God's ordered world, my friend.  A simple read of the Scriptures will show that it has been prophesied of.  Well, every conspiracy necessarily must have conspirators.  But like the elephant standing in the middle of the room that everybody sees but pretends isn't there, so too is the International Jew standing at the helm of all offensive-to-God movements, but none dare speak of it.  Well, we here at WBSG dare to speak of it.  And if someone is uncomfortable with that, then to them I say: peace, go your way, I'll see you on the other side.  A dumb Christian is not our enemy; though they shall, in ignorance, get a lot of us beheaded, and shall (and now do) enable (unwittingly) those who conspire to set up antichrist.

 

    I pose a question to those with their mouths hanging open right now because I said that Judaism and her Jews are the endtime enemy of God, His Christians, and His ordered world:  Why do you find it so odd that those who killed God (Jesus Christ) would also be the same ones who would kill God’s people and work to destroy His ordered world in the Tribulation―when nothing else makes more sense?  I know the answer to that question, it is because you have been brainwashed, conditioned, and trained by the Judaic-controlled Media and Educational System to have that reaction.  If you would ever clear your head and just look at all the facts, you would come out of the delusion.  The ease at which God’s endtime people (Christians) are deceived is frightening.  Oh how crystal clear now is Jesus’ woeful muse:

 

Luke 18:8
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?  KJV

 

    Most Christians today are totally unsuitable for battle—any kind of battle—both physical and spiritual.  God never told us not to fight, like so many watered-down Christians presume; He just said that if you fight, be prepared for the possibility that you may be killed.  However, either way, He said that in the Tribulation all Christians shall have to make a decision.  Some shall be captive of satan, and some shall die resisting him and his hoards of Judaic-controlled antichristians.  Though they both be Christians, and therefore saved from eternal damnation. 

Revelation 13:10-15
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.
Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.  KJV

    So then, can the "lukewarmers," the "Politically Correct," and the "confrontation avoider's,” take the mark of the beast and pretend to worship antichrist while secretly being Christians?  Don't even try it!

Revelation 14:9-12
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.  KJV

    What then, shall the Christians fall?  No real Christian shall fall; however, the answer to the dilemma that arises out of what I have just stated lies in the fact that many who say they are Christians, are not real Christians.  "But my preacher said that all I have to do is to come to the front of the church (the so-called "altar call") and repeat the words 'Jesus I accept you as my Savior' and I am saved," some will say.  Sorry pal, God searches the hearts; He knows whether a profession is made from the heart as opposed to just from the mouth simply to "cover one's butt."  Or consider, for instance; how many Catholics do you think are really Christians?  We could draw this list on exponentially.  But anyway, observe how the endtime so-called Christians shall be doing:

Matthew 15:7-9
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.  KJV
 

 

Titus 1:16
16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.  KJV

 

2 Timothy 3:5-9

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.  KJV

 

John 5:42

42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

KJV

 

Hosea 8:1-4

8:1 Set the trumpet to thy mouth. He shall come as an eagle against the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant, and trespassed against my law.

2 Israel shall cry unto me, My God, we know thee.

3 Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him.

4 They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. KJV

 

Ezekiel 33:31-32

31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.  KJV

 

Matthew 7:21-23

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.  KJV

    Most of today's so-called Christians just aren't going to be all that useful to God in the endtimes—they are lukewarm and have been overthrown intellectually.  They stand for nothing; thus, they shall fall in the day of falling.  But there are others out there, who are also Christians; but these are fitted for service.  These are those who are fighters not runners, to them I say: consider the evidence, learn all that you can now while there is still time to learn and access to info.  When the Tribulation commences, all information sources shall be cutoff.  It will grow spiritually dark; and all Internet, telephone and mail communication between fellows, libraries, and bookstores shall be off-line.

 

John 9:4
4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.  KJV

 

    Moving on with a change of subject:  Let's talk about today's Christians who are NOT so very ineffective in doing God's good work.  Let's examine just one tactic that has rendered them saltless.

 

Matthew 5:13-15
13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour , wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.  KJV

 

    Oh, but many endtime Christians do place a bushel-basket over their candles, so that none can see that light (which is Christ and God’s good Law).  They do this because they are afraid to make an “unpopular” stand.

Let's take just one topic—abortion (though i know the topic has been beaten to death).  We need not mention that "today's Christian" women get abortions at almost the same rate as Atheists do.  Let's pretend that our Christian in the below is a well meaning and real Christian.  Let's observe how easily he is overthrown by satan's Judaic liberal social-engineering tactics:

 

    Think about it, how many times have you argued with an Atheist (or whatever) only to have them turn the tables on you are say something like "Your Jesus said to love your enemies, therefore why are you against Abortion Doctors?" or also, their favorite, “Your Jesus said not judge unless you want to be judged; so don’t tell us what we do is wrong; you can’t tell anyone that anything is wrong, because that is what your God said”, or some other such argument. 

 

    Then the Christian, thinking he does God's will, will say something stupid like "I don't hate the Doctor who murders ten children a week, I just "hate" the sin of murder.", or, “I don’t hate Homosexual, I had the sin of Sodomy.”  That's double talk, and the Atheist knows it.  You are not against the concept of Homosexuality, or the act of Abortion, per se; you are standing against those who do those things—and they know it—which is why Gays, Liberals [non-Judaic Jewish minded "useful idiots"], and the Judaics themselves target Christians.  And rightly do you do it.  For, without an offender, there is no offense.  In other words, if there were no Homosexuals, then there would be no Homosexuality.  Then some (most) endtime Christians will bow their head and walk away, leaving, say, the Abortion Doctor to continue his massacre.  And why?  Because the Christian has been duped into thinking that he has no right to stand-up for justice and the truth, and to oppose evil and lies.  To do so, he has been trained, is tantamount to being—oh my gosh—a hater!  Most Christians today, unbeknownst to themselves, are not following the church of Jesus Christ, they are following the church of Political Correctness and compromise.  Christians ought not take their instructions from Atheists and Jews, they ought to take them from God’s Word.  God said to rebuke, chasten, reprove, … ; but today’s lukewarm watered-down Christian keeps silent in the face of all that offends God.  How can they think that they are well-pleasing to God?  They are handing satan God’s world, lock, stock, and barrel!

Ephesians 5:11
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.  KJV

 

2 Timothy 4:1-4
4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove , rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.  KJV

Revelation 18:4
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.  KJV

    Some Christians, well meaning no doubt, just can’t seem to get it through their head that some are going to go to “hell,” it is their destiny.  And in a misguided sense of love, many Christians are so busy casting their pearls before swine, and then, even worse, they condemn any other Christian who does not compromise God’s Word with the dead souls, that they have become wholly ineffective.  They aren't saving anyone, they aren’t teaching anyone; they themselves are being diluted, they themselves are changing.

 

Jude 3-4
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.  KJV

 

    So what happens is that in the Western Nations which were founded on CHRISTIAN values (don't let them lie to you and say that this isn't so) they now murder a baby every three seconds--and the Christians walk around with their head held high thinking that they do God's will by not stopping it.  Two-faced Christians even vote Abortion supporting Representatives into their Governmental offices.  God sees and is not well pleased.  You could say that God "hates" these Christians, if you understand the Biblical usage of the word 'hate" as we saw in the above.  For, surely they are the very least of the saints.

 

    Am I saying to assassinate Abortion Doctors?  No, that would be illegal, which would be the only reason not to stop them dead in their Kosher tracks (yes, Virginia, the Abortion Industry is top-heavy with Jews [Planned "Parenthood" specifically); we are not to do that which is illegal.  But we also shouldn't vote in politicians who take Abortioni$t'$ lobbying money, who vote for Abortion laws.  When we do so, we become partakers in every Abortion ever preformed.  And should an Abortion Doctor get killed—good, praise God—he now goes to see God, where he can tell God that it was "Pro-Choice" not infanticide (baby-murder) that he committed 300-1000 times.  (Note: For Christian women who have had Abortions―repent in Christ’ name and be free of the sin.)

 

Genesis 9:6-7

6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.  KJV

 

    So then, is the assassination of an Abortion Doctor or Abortion "health care" workers, murder?  No, it is not murder; it is the "shedding of man's blood," as we see in the Scripture above, but it is not murder.  There was a fellow a year or three ago who was executed by the Sate (I forget which State) for assassinating an Abortion Doctor and his bodyguard (a "moon-lighting" off-duty policeman).  Will that man face God as a murderer?  No, he shall not.  For, by killing that murderous Doctor and his assistant who enabled him, he prevented many other baby murders.  But as God stated, he had best prepare himself for the possibility that he shall also be killed—as he was by Lethal-Injection.  Remember:

 

Revelation 13:10

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.  KJV

 

    Am I advocating vigilantism?  No, not really, not today, not at this time, not yet; I am just speaking on what the Scriptures reveal on the matter.  “Funny” thing is, when the Judaics finally succeed in breaking down civil order in the Christian Western Nations (which is their immediate soon-to-realized goal), and when they bring in the Martial Law and the suspension of law and the Constitution & Bill of Rights―they make clear a way for vigilantism to not be vigilantism; for, where there is no law, there is no breaking of the law (but God’s Law stands always).  And Martial Law is not law, it is subjugation, slavery, bondage, a takeover by military force―they just call it Martial LAW; kind of like they call baby murder, “Pro-Choice.”  Kill a baby in the womb and they call it a Abortion, a “reproductive choice,” but take that same baby out of the womb, and one second later kill it, and they call it murder―that’s man’s law.  God’s Law is true. 

 

    So then, when Martial Law is declared nation-wide (the entire global Western Christian nations-wide) perhaps the floodgates shall open upon the evil ones.  Who knows.  I just watch and observe this world as she careens into the Tribulation.  I think that many revolutionaries shall be born and borne of the Martial Law declarations and implementations in the Western Christian Nations during the Tribulation.  Perhaps that has something to do with why a full two-thirds of the global population is killed in the book of Revelation (though most endtime Christians ignore that, willingly ignorant to the harsh reality of the Bible they claim to trust and follow).  But "don’t fear,” the Catholic Church has just declared in October of 2005 that the book of Revelation (and many other parts of Scripture) are not true.  Simply amazing, despicable, blasphemous!  And what's horrifying is, is that Catholics make up one half of all so-called Christians globally!  Can the end be very far off!  See: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible  -- The Times October 05, 2005, By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent. United Kingdom; Times Newspapers Ltd. (Times Online, The Times, and The Sunday Times). [You've got to read this article to believe it!]

 

    Back to the “poor” assassinated (extra-judicial execution) Abortion Doctor:  Have absolutely no pity on a murder who is killed for murdering people (in this case, babies, the children of God).  God told you as much, Christian; but did you hear Him?

 

Deuteronomy 19:21
21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.  KJV

 

Deuteronomy 19:13
13 Thine eye shall not pity him, but thou shalt put away the guilt of innocent blood from Israel, that it may go well with thee.  KJV

 

    Many absolve the State Executioner for killing the above man who was convicted in a court of law for the "murder" of the Abortion Doctor, but few absolve the vigilante who killed the mass-murderer Abortion Doctor.  Such is the unequal ways of endtime man in the endtime once-Christian nations―and it was Christians that sat on their hands and let it happen.  There was a time, not so long ago, where Abortion was considered murder in a court of law in America.  But satan's chosen ones moved hard to change the law.  So that now Abortion is a "service to society," the rightful administration of a loose and immoral woman's "reproductive choice."  God is coming back soon, and He shall set all right at His appearing—by great wrath.  But first the Judaics and their god antichrist (satan) must have their day of triumph for a moment—then comes the end.

 

    In conclusion:  how can I say the things about the Judaics that I have said above?  How can I say the Judaics are the eternal enemy of Jesus Christ and Christianity?  I can say it because they say it:

 

The Jewish author Bernard Lazare sums up the unchanging ways of Jews:

“The Jew. . . is not content merely to destroy Christianity, he preaches the gospel of Judaism; he not only assails the Catholic or the Protestant faith, but he incites unbelief, and then imposes his own conception of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith he ruins.  He is engaged in his historic mission, the annihilation of the religion of Christ.”  --Bernard Lazare, Antisemetism: its History and Causes, (1903) p. 319.

And how can I say that the Judaics are anti-God and anti-Christ?  Because they say it:

 

Jews Claim That They Themselves, Collectively, Are To Be The Awaited Messiah!

 

“The Messiah [is] without metaphor, the Jewish people.” ―The Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Kethuboth, 111a.


Picture: Segment of the rabbinical footnotes to
Kethuboth, 111a, the Jewish Babylonian Talmud.

 

    If the truth offends anyone, then I will miss your visits to our Website.  Every Christian has to, by his own conscience, decide where he fits in, in these endtimes.  I have made my choice, I choose truth over so-called Political Correctness and hypocrisy.  For that, someday I shall be hunted (by the guess who’s).  And to all that want to seek out the truth, regardless of where it leads, I say to you that you are welcome here with us at WBSG.  But know too that you shall be on their list for persecution/prosecution as well.  

"Truth cannot live on a diet of secrets, withering within entangled lies. Freedom cannot live on a diet of lies, surrendering to the veil of oppression. The human spirit cannot live on a diet of oppression, becoming subservient in the end to the will of evil. God, as truth incarnate, will not long let stand a world devoted to such evil. Therefore, let us have the truth and freedom our spirits require... or let us die seeking these things, for without them, we shall surely and justly perish in an evil world." --H. Michael Sweeney.

     And to the weak and cowardly, to those who close the eyes thinking that because pretending to not see something somehow exonerates them from action, I say to you: sleep-on, sleeper; the end is nigh (near).

Mark 13:28-37

28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:

29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.

30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

34 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.

37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.  KJV

    Peace, though I know that there is to be no peace presently nor till the end of the world.  But peace to you anyways; and may God keep you.

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God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ's name!
Nick Goggin

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Spirit of Slumber—does God blind them anymore?  Also, could my unbelieving loved one convert at the last moment unbeknownst to me?

 

A reader (female) writes:

Hi Nick,

This is something that I am struggling with to the point of tears.  You
wrote in one study:   12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the
world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much
more their fulness? [God has a Divine plan to save many people that some
don't think will be saved.  But that saving will not happen till the
Millennium]   (KJV)

Where, where, where, do you find in the Bible that these people will be
saved during the Millennium?

My dad went to church every Sunday with Mom and I, but he never accepted
the Lord as his Saviour (as far as I know.....he died when I was 16,
some 42 years ago.)  However, in the last three months of his life, not
able to walk and hardly able to speak, he wanted to listen to gospel
music.  It has always broken my heart that I never really knew if he
accepted the Lord in his heart or not.  (Had I not been so young I would
have asked him, but back in the early 60's, we were in that church
system that counts memberships and not much else, including any follow
up and teaching if you did accept the Lord.  It was because of this lack
of spiritual teaching, spiritual need of milk, and the sheep not feeding
the flock, that my so-called conversion at age 14 never went no where.
I lived in sin until 1983.  And in that time from age 14 to 1983, I can
tell you there were many times I should have been dead, yet for His
reasons, God took care of me even then.)

Could my dad have accepted the Lord on his deathbed?  Could the Lord
even have reached him when he was in a coma?  And my question extends to
mankind in general.  Are these people your talking about being saved and
taught in the millinneum people who had never heard of God?  Surely you
don't mean people that had never accepted Christ.

Please explain this to me, and where you find this in the Bible.

Anxiously awaiting your reply, and sending many blessings to you,
--
Xxxxxxxxxx

 

Answer:

Hello.  I see that worded some things in that Q&A imperfectly; which, I see now, can lead to some confusion.  I have taken down that Q&A pending revision.  However, since you asked a question based upon it, I shall answer your questions below.  You said:

"This is something that I am struggling with to the point of tears.  You
wrote in one study:   12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the
world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much
more their fulness? [God has a Divine plan to save many people that some
don't think will be saved.  But that saving will not happen till the
Millennium]   (KJV)
Where, where, where, do you find in the Bible that these people will be
saved during the Millennium?"

The question is not "where" do you we find it, but "to whom is it referring."  We find it here:

Revelation 20:5-8

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.  KJV

The above is a second temptation, and it is performed by satan at the end of the 1000 years (millenium).  There is a chance that certain people who did not overcome in this our present Earth age may change their decision.  Chapter 20 of Revelation is the Millennium (the 1000 years).  All are in spiritual bodies at that time--there is no more flesh from Revelation 20 on.

This is not a second chance, this is a first chance for those who died before Christ was offered and resurrected.

The below "spirit of slumber" Scripture refers to Paul's time.  When Jesus was alive on the Earth many could not accept Him.  But after Christ died and resurrected, Paul was ordained to teach those who had the "spirit of slumber."  And Paul fulfilled that.  I do not believe that this spirit of slumber any longer applies.  Paul was sent to correct them, thus the slumber was lifted from off them, and many did repent and believe.  Today (since after the New Testament was written) there is no more "God-sent slumber."

Below is the Scripture that I am speaking of.  Observe how that Paul speaks of this spirit of slumber, and then "'breaks it," so to speak:

Romans 11:7-15

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them:

10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?  KJV

 

Romans 11:25-33

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [1st Advent]

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.[1st Advent]

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now [1st Advent] obtained mercy through their [Israel's] unbelief:

31 Even so have these [Israel] also now not believed, that through your [Gentiles] mercy they [Israel] also may obtain mercy.

32 For God hath concluded them [Israel] all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all [Israel AND Gentiles].

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!  KJV
 

Now regarding your father: you said:

"My dad went to church every Sunday with Mom and I, but he never accepted
the Lord as his Saviour (as far as I know.....he died when I was 16,
some 42 years ago.)  However, in the last three months of his life, not
able to walk and hardly able to speak, he wanted to listen to gospel
music.  It has always broken my heart that I never really knew if he
accepted the Lord in his heart or not."

Well, listening to Gospel music is an odd hobby for an Aithiest.  In other words, the fact that he was drawn to Gospel music says much.  I am a Christian, and I don't even like gospel music.  So for him to enjoy it at the end of his life says much as to his feelings about the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

You said:

"(Had I not been so young I would have asked him, but back in the early 60's,

we were in that church system that counts memberships and not much else,

including any follow up and teaching if you did accept the Lord."

That is a problem even today, perhaps more so today.

You said:

"It was because of this lack of spiritual teaching, spiritual need of milk,

and the sheep not feeding the flock, that my so-called conversion at age

14 never went no where. I lived in sin until 1983.  And in that time from age

14 to 1983, I can tell you there were many times I should have been dead,

yet for His reasons, God took care of me even then.)"

God is good, is He not?

You said:

"Could my dad have accepted the Lord on his deathbed?  Could the Lord
even have reached him when he was in a coma?"

Yes, most definitely!  That is the reason, I feel, that many die slow and in comas, instead of fast in car wrecks, etc.  And "we" always say that it is a misfortune to die a slow death.  Well, for some, it may well be a blessing in disguise.

You said:

"And my question extends to mankind in general.  Are these people your talking

about being saved and taught in the millinneum people who had never heard of God?

Surely you don't mean people that had never accepted Christ. Please explain this to

me, and where you find this in the Bible."

I believe that I answered it in the above.  I would add that after one dies they cannot undo his/her past:

Hebrews 9:27-10:1

27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.  KJV

Xxxxxxx, I know what it is that you struggle with.  You want to know whether your father is going to live eternal with God or perish in the Lake of Fire after judgment Day.  We all wonder this about loved ones of ours from time past.

No man can answer that for you, any who try are only speculating.  But based upon what you have told me about your father, it is very possible that he became saved on his deathbed, in the coma, or in the months proceeding his death when the stark reality of his situation hit him.  Many people convert on their death beds, many soldiers convert in battle, many people convert after a near-fatal accident/illness.  And none of us living ones know for sure what visitations God makes to the dying and in comas.  Only God can your answer you question.

I wonder if it would be helpful for you to know that when you die, when we are all in our spiritual bodies in the millennium and then evermore in the eternity--we will not have the same attachment to parents and children and spouses that we have here on Earth.  In Heaven, in spiritual bodies, we are all fellow angels. we are all fellow children of God.  So that you, at that time, will have the same affection for me as you do for your father.  In Heaven your father is not your father, God is your (and all of our) Father.

Matthew 19:25-26

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.  KJV

In closing, I would add that we are only accountable for what we know.  Paul touches on this regarding himself:

1 Timothy 1:12-17

12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.  KJV

Peace, and please feel free to follow-up if I was unclear on anything.

________________________________________________________________________
God bless the study of His Word, in Jesus Christ's name!
Nick Goggin

 

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Deliberate Attack on USS Liberty

 

Nick

Please print this on your site.  I know God is
wanting me to say this.

Rev 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I
know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the
synagogue of Satan.  (KJV)

On June 8, 1967 the Israeli Defense Force
attacked an unarmed American ship and
meant to put her to the bottom.  I was aboard
that ship, and I saw the awesome fire power
that was leveled against us.  We had no defense
except four 50 caliber machine guns, which we
only fired a couple of rounds from.  They had
napalm, rockets, torpedos, and machine guns.
They spent almost an hour and a half trying to
put the USS Liberty to the bottom.  Their
Air Force, their Navy, their Army could not
put the Liberty to the bottom.  The Army actually sent a helicopter loaded
with troops
to help in their objective.

Here is my question Nick.  If these people are
who they claim they are, the USS Liberty would
have went to the bottom with all hands aboard.
The opposite happened, and God held that ship
up no matter what these people tried to do.
If I were them I would stand in awe of the mighty power of God that kept the
LIberty
afloat against all odds.
Now I would refer you to First Samuel
where an almost identical thing happened
They took the Ark of the Covenant
into battle with them, and they still lost.  These
people are subject to the power of God just
as the rest of us.  If I were them I would remove
the splinter from my eye and take a real good
look at what happened that day.  God saved
the USS Liberty and most of the men who were
aboard her.  Yes we lost thirty four and I have
no explanation for that, but I was there, and I
know that our God saved us.  Please distribute
this for all to see so that they will know the
truth of what you have on your web site.

Ronald G. Kukal
Survivor of the deliberate attack on
the USS Liberty. June 8, 1967
 

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