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Why Tribulation-prepare for 48 months?
Hello again, Denise. May I repost your above, below; and insert answers in [bracketed, blue text]?
"Hello there Nick,
I can see what it is that you are saying. Is not the dragon satan?" [Yes he is; documentation: Rev 12:9]
"Isn't satan the beast / dragon who comes and heals the deadly wound? By the looks of this then it would read that the system beast continues for another 42 months after the wound is healed by satan present on earth." [The confusion here is this: The beast is the "New World Order," so to speak; and the dragon is satan/antichrist himself. Two different beasts. Notice in your above verse 4: "And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast". Anitchrist (satan) is the dragon that empowers the 1st beast BEFORE satan/antichrist physically gets here. Just like the Holy Spirit empowers God's people from above; i.e., God's Spirit is here (the Holy Spirit) while God is yet in heaven; the same goes for satan's evil spirit(s).]
"What about the silence in heaven for the space of an half of an hour?" [A pause. Call it the calm before the storm, if you will. I do not ascribe any significance at this time to the length of this pause; i.e., the silence for HALF AN HOUR, though I understand what others are implying of this time. And it is a set time, but I do not think at this time it is significant regarding setting dates or interpreting lengths of times. It does mean something, but what it means seems unclear to me at this point. I do not interpret it to mean half of the Tribulation, as some do. But it may well refer to that, symbolically. For, the Tribulation is referred to as the hour of temptation in Rev 3:10. I just feel that at this time not enough info is known to set any time length for the half hour in heaven. And then one can become even more confused if he ponders whether a half an hour in heaven is as long as a half of an ??? on Earth. You know what I mean?]
"Also, why do you feel we need to prepare and store for 48 months. It reads to me that we will not be able to buy or sell when satan appears." [My suggestion to store up for 48 months is not based upon the buying and selling. And also notice that the Scriptures never tell us to store up at all. But my reasoning is that IF one is predisposed (or led) to set aside provisions to endure the entire Tribulation, he should have enough for 48 months. Why 48 months? Because the first "half" of the Tribulation is 42 months, and satan isn't here yet, but the persecutions begin; for, the first beast:
That beast wasn't satan/antichrist. This throws many people off. Satan/antichrist is ANOTHER beast, and he comes to this Earth three verse later:
And then the second "half" of the Tribulation is five months, and satan (antichrist) IS here. So that the whole Tribulation is 47 months. I advised "48 months" just to be sure that you had enough, or in case you jumped the gun and started a month early. Better to have too much than not enough. Do as you are led. Many feel very strongly that to store up is to show lack of faith that God would provide (and for them then perhaps it would be). But by present opinion is that He gave us good minds and expects us to use them.
God is able to
provide, for sure! But I see no sin in keeping a level
headed defense plan. But if you do not feel led, or are
unable to supply yourself, then trust God. But then, is God
letting us know what is going to happen so that we do
prepare? Hmmmmm..... Presently, I cannot afford to
make these preparations; and to tell you the truth, if the
Tribulation started tomorrow I would have full confidence
that God has me by the hand. However, if He suddenly made a
way available for me to prepare, I would take it as a sign
that He sent me inspiration to plan ahead. I think that for
every Christian it may be different. Do as you personally
are led of God, and you shall be fine (pray and ask Him; He
will not leave you comfortless--you will find your
individual answer. Don't worry, you WILL know). He will
touch your heart if He seeks that you set up some provisions
for the storm to come. But it isn't a sin if you make
plans, asking God for guidance and blessings, is it? No, I
think not. Besides, maybe He wants some people to be able
to share and help others. Who knows? He will make it known
to each faithful Christian heart.
And it isn't only because of the "not
being able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast"
that we store food and prepare. During the
Tribulation, Christians shall be hunted for conversion―this
happens before antichrist actually gets here; for, when he
is here, he will already have the worship of most the world.
And it seems a little short-sighted to think that the beast
(the one-world system), on the one hand: will not let us buy
food; but on the other hand, that they will leave us alone
otherwise, to ride out the Tribulation in safety with our
stored provisions, while they all sit around worshipping
satan (antichrist). The only ones to make it, will be
the ones that the Jews can't find. Well, to hide, you
need provisions. It would be pointless to store food
in the cities, where you can be easily found and arrested.
As you can guess, most are going to be
in quite a dangerous predicament during the Tribulation.]
And it isn't only because of the "not being able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast" that we store food and prepare. During the Tribulation, Christians shall be hunted for conversion―this happens before antichrist actually gets here; for, when he is here, he will already have the worship of most the world. And it seems a little short-sighted to think that the beast (the one-world system), on the one hand: will not let us buy food; but on the other hand, that they will leave us alone otherwise, to ride out the Tribulation in safety with our stored provisions, while they all sit around worshipping satan (antichrist). The only ones to make it, will be the ones that the Jews can't find. Well, to hide, you need provisions. It would be pointless to store food in the cities, where you can be easily found and arrested.
As you can guess, most are going to be in quite a dangerous predicament during the Tribulation.]
"When will your book be finished and can you please let me know when it is. Is it e-book or book book? I'd love to read it." [Thank you. It seems now months off, but I will announce it to the mailing list and on the Website. You can sign up for the mailing list below. It is going to be a "book-book", paper and ink. I'm trying to keep it under 350 pages, 8 1/2 x 11, double-column, ten-point text; illustrated. It will go far deeper than anything I've ever written before it.]
"Thanks a lot. Denise." [You're welcome. May He touch your heart to find that confidence to know in your heart that He will let you know, in Jesus Christ's precious and powerful name. Amen?
PS: He understands that we are all a little edgy about this 'Tribulation thing.' He doesn't get angry at us for our fears. It is normal and human to fear the unknown threat.]
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GPS, RFID, and Cell Phone tracking during the Tribulation (and now)
Hi Mark, thank you for the compliment. You are incorrect, though, regarding the below statement:
Even today, when you call Police with a cell phone, they can tell where you are within a couple of blocks. In Chicago, they can tell within 2 blocks because there are so many cell towers. Haven't you noticed the several news-stories, wherein someone is shot in their car, calls Police on a cell phone, and then passes out without giving their location; or, someone is kidnapped, placed in the trunk of their car, and the perpetrator drives off with them, and the person in the truck calls 911 with their cell phone―then the police find them by cell phone tracking? It has been in several news stories that I have heard. And this was even going back a couple of years―the technology now is even better and more accessible. They aren't finished improving these technologies. And they are dual-use.
The way it works is this: Triangulation. Every cell call has attached to it a signal that you don't hear. This signal bears the unique number of your cell phone. This number follows the phone call as it bounces off cell towers, into a land station, and then to the phone that you are calling.
This signal leaves your phone in a 360 degree pattern. So it hits not only one cell tower, but any towers in range. With the proper software, any municipality (or intelligence agency) can read the distance of your phone to the cell tower, and then from your phone to a second tower, and finally, your phone to a third tower. Hence, triangulation (triangle). With the distance to any given three points, one can know the exact location of the phone sending the signal. observe below:
If you are on your cell phone; and if I know the exact distance between tower 1 and the phone, tower 2 and the phone, and tower 3 and the phone; and I know the exact location of the towers 1, 2, and 3―then I can pinpoint exactly where you are when you are using the phone.
But this only works in major metropolitan areas, and not in the country as well, because the more towers that there are, the better the chance of having three in range at the same time. Now you know why they are building these towers so close together and in such great numbers in the cities―far closer and far more numerous than would be needed for good phone service.
But even if only two cell towers pick up your signal, I can find two possible locations for you. Then I would just have to dispatch crews to two locations instead of just one to find you. But if only one tower picks up your signal, as in the more remote areas; then you could be anywhere in a 360° circle of the tower. And if I only have one tower tracking you, then I must send out many crews to locate you. But even then I know an approximate locality of you, within, say, a mile or so, depending on terrain and obstructions which affect the travel of the signal. Observe:
Now with Nextel phones, and all the others that are moving in the direction of the Nextel technology, I can find you even when you are not using the phone (as long as it is turned on). The reason for that is that Nextel has the walkie-talkie feature. With this feature the phone is always on-line. It is always connected to cell towers so that when someone walkie-talkie's you, you get it instantly. Therefore, you are always broadcasting a locating beacon. Many other cell phones have a signal light on them that tells you when you are within range to make a call. These usually work on a colored light system-when you have a green light, you can get a connection, when the light is red, you can'y send or receive calls. Well, how do you think that the phone knows that it could get a signal if you tried to call? It knows because it is sending out a beacon, and if it returns to the phone, the phone knows that the signal is 'establishable,' (actually it already is established, you just aren't using it), and the indicator light goes to green. 'They' can track this beacon that your phone is sending, even if you aren't actually actively talking on the phone.
Regarding GPS (Global Positioning Satellite); these will be detectable even if the phone is off. Nextel is now offering GPS as an added feature. Unsuspecting people will buy this feature under the guise of being able to get directions and having an emergency locator, like ONSTAR on the newer GM cars. Soon all phones will have this built-in, as will all cars. Some say that many cars, year 1999-2000 and up, have this technology built-in. This I haven't confirmed. But there are stories of black boxes on some of these cars. There was a case, about a year or two ago, where I remember a lawsuit revealing that a Limousine had a black box in it, and the lawyers used that crash info from the Limo's black box (a recorder that charts speed and braking, etc., just prior to an accident), to sue for damages in an auto-accident lawsuit.
And there are tracking chips [RFID Chips (Radio-Frequency IDentification)] that are as small as a pin-head. There was a big stink a couple of years ago about Wall-Mart placing these chips in every product they sold. Suppliers could not sell Wall-Mart merchandise unless they had these chips. The ostensive (supposed) purpose of these chips were for inventory control. They could point their handheld devise at a pallet of boxes, and every item on the pallet would return a specific signal-thus, without opening the boxes, they could tell that they had, say 425 Music. 200 of them Elvis's best hits, 50 of them Frank Sinatra, 42 of them Blues traveler, etc. The stink came along when people realized that when Wall-Mart sold you the CD (or Blue Jeans, etc.); they never turned off the chip, they couldn't!
So that with the right technology and active interface with municipality and Credit Card information, and store records: a satellite in space could read you from miles above, and know that you are wearing size 33 length x 33 waist boot-cut Blue Jeans with red trim around the pockets, and you are carrying an Elvis Presley best-hits CD; all of which you purchased at Wall-Mart store # 586, in Chicago, Il., on June 20, 2005, at 4:23 pm, central time; using MasterCard number xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-1234; with a billing address of 1234 Fifth St., Anytown, USA. (And by the way, you are late on your last payment), and cross-checking records shows that your Driver's License number is xxxxxxxxxxx, and you have a parking ticket outstanding on your 2003 Ford Probe, which you got at 4:30 am, on May 5th, 2005, at 5678 N. Ninth St., Anytown, USA.
You get the point. See also the news-item at right, regarding possible (probable) National ID Cards with RFID chips imbedded them―virtually establishing your location every minute of every day! Wouldn't that be handy for them when they start to round-up Christians for conversion and forced renunciations of Jesus Christ under threat of beheading?
Let your imagination lead you to what 'big brother' could do with this technology! Of course, Wall-Mart tells you that with this streamlined inventory control, they can offer you their goods for less money. You are elated to save a little money. Not knowing that all this technology is dual-use. How would you like a tracking chip glued into the seam of your Bible during the Great Tribulation? Far-fetched? Today it may seem so, tomorrow it won't be.
Pretty slick, aren't they? They make us ask for the technology that they will turn against us. The best phone to use in the Tribulation would be a 'borrowed' one (from someone that does not know you), that won't be identifiable to you. But then, once you call a targeted number, they will then search out for that phone's signal signature, assuming that it is someone that they are looking for.
So you would have to change phones often. And then there is the problem of them tracing the number that you are calling and arresting (or placing under surveillance) anyone on that line. Best bet is no technology, no electronics, no contact. This could only be accomplished if one had well laid out plans before anything Happened. You can't reach out to anyone. As you may have observed, these tactics are the same ones that a terrorist would use. Hence, you can see that the government's efforts at tracking undesirable 'terrorists' are dual-use―they can use the same technology to track the undesirables of the Tribulation―the Christian. Do you see now why the 'terrorist boogey-man' is quite a convenient development for the powers that be? This is why many feel that the whole 911 thing was orchestrated by the hidden powers to take away civil and privacy rights, and to put into place a global surveillance and tracking grid, in preparation for the Tribulation; where Christians shall be hunted like 'terrorists.'
Short-wave radio, however, is undetectable while simply receiving. It can only be traced at the transmission point. I suspect that there will be short-wave radio traffic during any emergency, giving info and details from all over the globe; as there was during 911, I believe. The key, of course, is to know what channels to trust, for the conspirators are not above pretending to be Patriots and Christians and sending out false information to lure people into arrest situations.
I also believe that during the Tribulation the Internet will be taken offline. There are thirteen global Internet hubs that control the traffic of the entire WWW. Gee, now who do you think controls them, who pays the electric bills for them, who has their hand on that switch to turn them off? Can't happen? Look at China, the State controls all info flowing in and out on the Internet in China. Also, with the advent of powerful Internet Filters, which we are seeing now under the guise of "protecting our children from porn," they can filter out whatever they do not wish to be posted. If they call their operation, let's say, "Brown Cow," then every Internet page with the term "Brown Cow" on it, will return with a "Page can't be found" message.
These people aren't stupid, and they have been planning this for a very long time―traded their very souls for it even. You must be wise as the serpents. The International Jew is very wise, and very evil; they shall stoke the fires of the Tribulation for satan, 3˝ years before he (as antichrist) gets here. Will you be ready? Do you need to make ready? That is an individual question between each Christian and God.
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Hi Robert. Regarding my statement [in Adulterations in the Newer Bible Versions...]:
Murdock owns the company that owns the company that owns the company... That is how it is done; everything in big business is done by Corporations―this is to protect the owner from lawsuits, etc. In the big business world there are few one-owner companies. Every company on the stock market, just about, is a corporation. So, for example: If I own McDonald's, and McDonald's Corporation trademarked the Big Mac Sandwich™; then I, as owner of McDonald's, hold the trademark on the Big Mac Sandwich.
Likewise, when one buys a publishing house, he becomes the owner of all the copyrights which that publishing house holds.
There is a clip that on a cassette tape by Gail Riplinger that names the companies. When I get a little time later, I will listen to the 2 hour tape again and transcribe the quote.
I haven't had time to check out the below info that you gave in your e-mail:
I don't know where you got the info on the International Bible Society, because Zondervan was the original publisher. But what you could do, is see who owns/is CEO of the International Bible Society. Then check the parent company the same way. And on and on until you get to top.
Gail's info [in New Age Bible Versions] came out 5-8 years ago, and it was explosive. I have no doubt that it would have been desirable for them to hide Murdoch's ownership. In fact, probably the best thing would have been to sell the copyright, or hide it under another parent corporation―but I don't know if that was the case. Have you also check out about the Amplified Bible version? Murdoch had that as well. It sounds like there may have been some cover-up going on. Remember, companies change ownership and multi-corporations shuffle all the time, in the financial world. Let me know what you find.
I have also seen several articles attacking Gail (of course they had to attack her), but have never heard the Murdoch issue challenged.
I will get you that exact quote, with citation, and ordering info for the tape--so you can clear your name. But is it any surprise that you Rapture pal can only argue over copyrights, instead of the falseness of the Rapture doctrine? I mean, the copyright holder of the NIV has absolutely nothing to do with the Rapture doctrine.
After returning the above reply to Robert, I decided to take the time (two hours) to document my statements. And as reader, Robert, was being attacked based on something that he quoted from me, I felt the responsibility to go ahead and further document my info, so as to clear Robert's name of the libel that the Rapturist hung on him; i.e., "I’ve been accused of defaming the word of God".
Below is that documentation (to which Robert thanked us). In the several excerpts below, we shall prove the (pictured) pyramid structure regarding Rupert Murdoch, purveyor of Pornography, and the New International Version Bible (the NIV):
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More Documentation and info
From Tex Mars' website:
The documented revelations in this 3-hour video series will convince all but the ungodly that the new bible versions are a plague and blot on the historic Christian faith. Gail Riplinger, author of the bestselling book, New Age Bible Versions, reveals that billionaire pornographer Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox TV's crude Bart Simpson and Married With Children programs, is also the owner of the printing rights to the New International Version (NIV) of the bible. Meanwhile, high-ranking Catholic Cardinal Martini now edits the Greek text underlying both the New International (NIV) and New American Standard (NAS) versions. This outstanding video also exposes: (1) Dr. Martin Woudstra, a supporter of the homosexual movement, was in charge of the translation for the NIV's Old Testament; (2) The New King James Version (NKJV) logo is the ancient symbol for the pagan trinity of false gods and is prominent today in the New Age movement; (3) There is a multitude of mistranslated words and omissions in the new bible versions.
Set (3 Hours) For Your Gift of $30
From Chick Publications, Inc., website:
This is the official website of the publisher's of Gail Riplinger's books on Bible Versions. Try their "Q&A" section for some great online documentation to give to those who claim the new Bible versions are easier to read. They also offer an interesting selection of smaller publications providing information like (1) a set of lessons that can be used to teach your church about Bible versions, (2) "Does the New King James Version follow the Traditional Greek and Hebrew texts?, (3) documentation that Ruport Murdoch, publisher of obscene material, controls the printing of the NIV, and that NIV [Editor] Virginia Mollencott is a lesbian, and (4) the NIV usually matches the changes and omissions in the Jehovah's Witness Bible."
And yet Another
From A.V. Publications Corp. website
Murdoch owns Fox TV, which owns Zondervan Publishers, which published the NIV Bible version
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